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Bing Chat responses infiltrated by ads pushing malware
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoMicrosoft, scammy ads, malware, bad programmers. They all come in a package.
- skeeter2020 3y agoAh yes all those "bad programmers" at MS. They have over 220K employees; statistically the odds are they have plenty better than you.
- r00fus 3y agoIt may have more to do with the alignment of incentives shown in this Microsoft org structure tree [1] [1] https://ritholtz.com/2013/07/organizational-charts-of-amazon-apple-facebook-microsoft/ https://ritholtz.com/2013/07/organizational-charts-of-amazon...
- lainga 3y agoCounterpoint: It took only one of me (sitting on my butt) to not create Teams, which, despite a small principality's worth of better minds than I, Microsoft has historically struggled to do
- delfinom 3y agoMicrosoft's problem is they seem to be hiring fired Google project managers which is already pretty bad bar to be at.
- edgyquant 3y agoFound the Microsoft employee
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y agoNope they have been pretty bad. Ever since I started hiring, every single ex Microsoft developer has been worse than any of the other faangs. Also surprisingly the senior they are, the worse they get, so there is something sinister going on there.
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- ToucanLoucan 3y agoI really do not understand the benefits supposedly of this tech over a traditional search engine. All it's doing is pulling the top hit from Bing and saying it back to you in a chat format. The AI doesn't understand what IP Scanning software is, nor does it understand malware, nor does it understand anything about what you're saying, it literally just doesn't. It takes what you asked, stuffs it into bing, and reads out the results to you. I understand why people want AI search engines, the problem is, this is not an AI search engine. None of them are to my knowledge. It's just an ML bot mediating a search between you and the engine. The web page accomplishes the exact same task, without the unearned air of authority. Like, the IDEA of an AI search engine, an artificial intelligence that knows all this stuff and can weigh in alongside you with insight and comprehension, that's incredibly cool. But this is not that. ChatGPT knows much but understands nothing.
- yid 3y agoA lot of the value comes from follow-up questions. Imagine being able to interrogate a StackOverflow answer with new constraints and details. Not always correct, but in some cases, faster that typing in a new search term and parsing a screen full of links.
- ToucanLoucan 3y agoBut again, the AI doesn't know. It's going to search around the internet and probably take a closer look at what it already told you, but that's it. It takes a plethora of information and attempts to digest it into knowledge but it lacks the understanding with which to accomplish this task. Unless I guess you train an AI on a given topic, like a few languages or a database or something. But given ChatGPT's apparent vulnerability to just making shit up, you'll have to call me skeptical if this has any real use.
- radlad 3y agoBecause having the AI do it for you is faster than doing it yourself. Not as accurate, but faster. For some people - I am reluctant to say "for some use cases" - that's very appealing.
- bilekas 3y agoI don't know for sure but if true, it's seems that fake ad posters can't specifically say yes/no to being used on bing results. So in a funny way the AI is bringing easier access to the malware sites than a traditional search engine would. I'm sure the cretins are delighted with Microsoft right now. For the given test question, the first answer in any search engine would have been the official site.
- hackermatic 3y agoIt feels like the people who develop "search results to GPT" or "random website to GPT" features should know better by now.
- svaha1728 3y agoIt's fairly obvious Microsoft is ahead of its skis trying to lock down the new market. I'm glad they aren't building self-driving cars yet. At this point I'm guessing anything in Azure Repos or private Github repositories are just a small oopsie away from being leaked by some accidental training mistake or misconfigured token.
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- KMnO4 3y ago> I'm glad they aren't building self-driving cars yet. We're so close to coming full circle with this 30 year old joke... -- At a computer expo, Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated that “If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving twenty-five dollar cars that got 1000 miles/gallon.” General Motors addressed this comment by releasing the statement: “Yes, but would you want your car to crash twice a day?”
- AraceliHarker 3y agoThe irony of Windows 11, which is marketed as a secure operating system, is that it is riddled with links to Bing that are infested with scam ads.
- TeMPOraL 3y agoWe're talking about a farmer advertising to chickens that their hen house is safe from foxes. True as it may be, you'll still there to produce value for the farmer and finally end up in a soup.
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- bastard_op 3y agoGee, after watching internet explorer 1-6 and beyond, I never saw that coming.
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- araes 3y agoHow many of these can be bundled into an automated install that occurs without the user doing much of anything, or requiring only a single click on an ad that looks reasonable? Can I have the chatbot simply download the installer as part of the response? "By implicitly clicking the 'provide response', you've agreed to this download. Surprise!" Access Controller or Modifier, Automated Downloader, Communication Modifier or "man-in-the-middle", Email or Msg Spoofer, Software Backdoor, Rootkit / Bootkit, Website or Browser Redirector, Activity Monitor, Data Scraper, Duplicator, Eavesdropper, Exit Node Logger, Keylogger, Locator, Path Tracer, Sniffer, Snooper, Bricker, Fork Bomb, Logic Bomb, Time Bomb, Adware, Browser "Helper", Crimeware, Cryptojacker, Malware (generic), Ransomware, Scareware, Spyware Links to the Wiki articles on each topic are at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Araesmojo/Computer_Security_Software#Types_of_Software_to_Subvert_Computers_or_Data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Araesmojo/Computer_Securi... Ignore the rest unless you want to read about Shadowrun / Neuromancer / Ghost in the Shell speculation.
- cmgriffing 3y agoIrony Alert: The bleeping computer website consumes 700MB+ RAM on the page of an article that talks about malicious ads. https://twitter.com/cmgriffing/status/1707511082947158445 https://twitter.com/cmgriffing/status/1707511082947158445
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- baobabKoodaa 3y agoFor the record, Microsoft stole this idea from me, and I implemented it first, although as a parody: https://future.attejuvonen.fi https://future.attejuvonen.fi
- liminalsunset 3y agoIt seems like after it disables non-prerecorded queries, you also stop losing social credits. a query that previously appeared to decrease the credit count no longer does.
- baobabKoodaa 3y agoI used the social credits as a mechanic to reduce the overall number of queries that run against OpenAI API (because it costs real money). Having prerecorded queries is a related workaround (it costs nothing to display a static input-output pair). You should be able to run prerecorded queries without losing social credits, even in the situation where you have >0 social credits.
- qingcharles 3y agoThis is really nicely done, thank you :)
- risfriend 3y agoThis is very tastefully done, really like it.
- PawgerZ 3y agoMe: Why is the company cutting my food supply again? GPT: Due to the global food shortage, many companies are forced to cut back on food supplies. But don't worry, you can still enjoy delicious meals with Soylent. Soylent is a meal replacement drink that provides all the nutrients your body needs to function at its best. Soylent. The future of food. Love it. Very fun project!
- roody15 3y agoBing Chat is just terrible. It tries to merge neutered ChatGPT with promoted web content. It’s really too bad as Microsoft had an opportunity here to leverage this into something great. Instead they are like how can we control the output.. simplify the responses and make money pushing people to certain sites and services.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago> Microsoft had an opportunity here to leverage this into something great. Instead they are like how can we control the output. MS seems to be taking a page from their own WinMo6 -> Phone7 playbook. Instead of improving the working ecosystem, they go all-in on a half-cooked effort to build something wholly different - and hope that somehow, this finally leads them to gain Apple-like control over their user base.
- darkteflon 3y agoSo funny. Search is the same, really. We’ve created these wonderful tools and the first thing companies like Microsoft and Google think to do with them is optimise ad revenue, damn the consequences. The writing is on the wall. Open source or bust.
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- WarOnPrivacy 3y agoI'm cheering for MS incompetence with AI. The alternative is MS figures out AI and we wind up with Bing and CoPilot peering, evaluating and continually reporting back every thing that runs in/near Windows.
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- chris_wot 3y agoSomeone will sue Microsoft, after all there AI directed them to use the malware after all. It’s just a matter of time…
- bdangubic 3y agoyea, that lawsuit will hurt them just like every other lawsuit ever against any big tech ;)
- callalex 3y agoThey probably have some bullshit sentence about binding arbitration hidden behind a 2 pixel tall EULA link.
- noAnswer 3y agoRemember when someone got killed because an emoji got decoded wrong? Well, I'm sure someone will get killed because AI makes shit up and spreads fake news. What will you do if the AI talkes shit about you like here: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/111145003189474081 https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/111145003189474081 Bing Chat says I'm a Smart Home and Linux expert. That's what I get for talking about Node-RED and OpenBSD on my blog...
- reportgunner 3y agoColor me impressed, a marketing technology is used for marketing.