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> Says Paul Amrine, quality assurance supervisor on this project, “Sometimes we go to work in the morning and end up having to ask our wives to bring us a packe

> Says Paul Amrine, quality assurance supervisor on this project, “Sometimes we go to work in the morning and end up having to ask our wives to bring us a packed suitcase.” [. . .] Man-hours, parts and resources, and a time-flow to a rock-hard completion date are calculated. I had to do a double-take to confirm this was written in 2008, and not the 1960s.

kotaKat 3y ago
When you're in a specialized on-call role like this you know to expect the unexpected and I surmise they're excellently compensated for this level of knowledge and expertise on the playing field. It's the same thing with some hospital support teams I've seen in the IT world -- it bewildered me that our EMR vendor wanted to ship someone out next day to drop a replacement hard drive in just because one of the discs that's been mirrored three times over has failed. We'd live with the remaining 3 copies of the same data a little bit longer, but they saw that as a possible safety risk.
- bombcar 3y ago
  If you've ever been involved in an NTSB failure report, you do NOT want to be the person answering the "so why was the replacement drive shipped by pack mule".
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    While it may not be pleasant, NTSB investigations are generally meant to be blameless, no? Punishment is considered the lowest priority, reserved for specific intentional violations.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      They’re usually quite blameful, just the people blamed are often dead. But even so you don’t want to explain to the boss why you tried to save a few bucks and caused an investigation. So the expensive but safe route wins.
- Alupis 3y ago
  It's vastly cheaper for them to helicopter in (figuratively, usually...) and replace a single drive when the stakes are minimal versus deal with cascading fallout of multi-drive failures and data/system recovery. This level of support is common for most high-end hardware systems - all the big players do this, including IBM, Dell, etc.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  It seems to happen more often than not in my experience that when one drive in an array fails, one or two more go within the next week or two.
infecto 3y ago
Why the double-take and reference to the 60s?
- pstuart 3y ago
  Likely the "wifely duties" aspect.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    I do not see a reason to double take due to that. Asking your spouse for help seems pretty normal, and 99.9% of aircraft mechanics that travel abroad on a moment’s notice for emergency repairs being men, 90% of which are married to women, also seems normal. Even in 2023.
    - bravoetch 3y ago
      The 60s take is that the woman is at home, ready willing and able to pack a suitcase. In 2023 it's more likely she is at work, like everyone else.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        This particular job may self-select towards a (high) single income family scenario, though. Or at least a highly flexible second income.
      - Horffupolde 3y ago
        I like my wives at home.
      - Alupis 3y ago
        Your spouse is incapable of going home and packing a suitcase to assist you simply because they also work? If you can't help out your spouse when needed, then you're not much of a spouse - regardless of your gender, income, roles, etc... This is a ridiculous take...
LgWoodenBadger 3y ago
Agreed. And knowing that this is a regular occurrence, one should have a packed travel bag with them at all times (aka bug-out bag, go-bag, shtf-bag).
- DiggyJohnson 3y ago
  That’s also a hassle. There’s no reason to claim there’s a right way to handle this sort of situation without knowing *significantly* more about the specifics, which we don’t.
lb1lf 3y ago
-SOP when I did this kind of thing in the offshore business was to always have a bag with your kit and a passport in the boot of your car. The first few times I called my wife to tell her I'd be late for dinner as I was on my way to Macaé or Penang she thought it was amusing. Her enthusiasm soon waned, and luckily I was bright enough to ease up on the unscheduled traveling before she really tired of it (and me!)

kotaKat 3y ago

When you're in a specialized on-call role like this you know to expect the unexpected and I surmise they're excellently compensated for this level of knowledge and expertise on the playing field. It's the same thing with some hospital support teams I've seen in the IT world -- it bewildered me that our EMR vendor wanted to ship someone out next day to drop a replacement hard drive in just because one of the discs that's been mirrored three times over has failed. We'd live with the remaining 3 copies of the same data a little bit longer, but they saw that as a possible safety risk.

bombcar 3y ago
If you've ever been involved in an NTSB failure report, you do NOT want to be the person answering the "so why was the replacement drive shipped by pack mule".
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  While it may not be pleasant, NTSB investigations are generally meant to be blameless, no? Punishment is considered the lowest priority, reserved for specific intentional violations.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    They’re usually quite blameful, just the people blamed are often dead. But even so you don’t want to explain to the boss why you tried to save a few bucks and caused an investigation. So the expensive but safe route wins.
Alupis 3y ago
It's vastly cheaper for them to helicopter in (figuratively, usually...) and replace a single drive when the stakes are minimal versus deal with cascading fallout of multi-drive failures and data/system recovery. This level of support is common for most high-end hardware systems - all the big players do this, including IBM, Dell, etc.
SoftTalker 3y ago
It seems to happen more often than not in my experience that when one drive in an array fails, one or two more go within the next week or two.

infecto 3y ago

Why the double-take and reference to the 60s?

pstuart 3y ago
Likely the "wifely duties" aspect.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  I do not see a reason to double take due to that. Asking your spouse for help seems pretty normal, and 99.9% of aircraft mechanics that travel abroad on a moment’s notice for emergency repairs being men, 90% of which are married to women, also seems normal. Even in 2023.
  - bravoetch 3y ago
    The 60s take is that the woman is at home, ready willing and able to pack a suitcase. In 2023 it's more likely she is at work, like everyone else.
    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      This particular job may self-select towards a (high) single income family scenario, though. Or at least a highly flexible second income.
    - Horffupolde 3y ago
      I like my wives at home.
    - Alupis 3y ago
      Your spouse is incapable of going home and packing a suitcase to assist you simply because they also work? If you can't help out your spouse when needed, then you're not much of a spouse - regardless of your gender, income, roles, etc... This is a ridiculous take...

LgWoodenBadger 3y ago

Agreed. And knowing that this is a regular occurrence, one should have a packed travel bag with them at all times (aka bug-out bag, go-bag, shtf-bag).

DiggyJohnson 3y ago
That’s also a hassle. There’s no reason to claim there’s a right way to handle this sort of situation without knowing *significantly* more about the specifics, which we don’t.

lb1lf 3y ago

-SOP when I did this kind of thing in the offshore business was to always have a bag with your kit and a passport in the boot of your car. The first few times I called my wife to tell her I'd be late for dinner as I was on my way to Macaé or Penang she thought it was amusing. Her enthusiasm soon waned, and luckily I was bright enough to ease up on the unscheduled traveling before she really tired of it (and me!)