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I've seen many chess commentator videos where they talk about possible future moves as if they have sometimes happened in other games even uf they are out of op
by drsopp 3y ago
I've seen many chess commentator videos where they talk about possible future moves as if they have sometimes happened in other games even uf they are out of opening theory, and definitely well into a unique game. "Here, you will have sometimes a6, or even b3". What is this called? Potential Future Tense?
- dangerlibrary 3y agoI think you are referring to the future perfect tense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_perfect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_perfect
- viraptor 3y agoFuture perfect would be "you will have had ...". This is future simple.
- qsort 3y agoI'm just reading it as an omission of the degree of possibility when making a prediction. We do this all the time in all sorts of contexts, e.g. "we'll not finish the project if we spend time on this feature".
- bmacho 3y agoI'd say grammatically it's simple future: will + verb.
- tsimionescu 3y agoTenses are not distinguished by their semantics, but by their grammatical form. That is, the same tense (in this case, future simple) can be used with different semantics in different contexts. You could argue that the "sometimes" has actually become codified into a part of the tense (so the verb phrase is not "will have" but "will have sometimes") and then it could be considered a new tense. But someone would have to analyze this language use quite carefully to see whether it has become codified in this way, or if it's just about using the regular future simple tense in a slightly different sense or in a somewhat formulaic manner.
- bradrn 3y ago> Tenses are not distinguished by their semantics, but by their grammatical form. Annoyingly, people don’t always keep these two definitions as separate as they should be. This means there are language-specific grammatical structures called ‘past’/‘present’/‘future’, and also idealised temporal semantics called ‘past’/‘present’/‘future’. This is why you get things like the so-called ‘English future tense’, which is used sometimes as a future tense but just as often for modal certainty. (The situation is even worse when it comes to aspect. It took me a very long time to understand what ‘perfective’ meant, because the ‘perfective’ category in different languages means different things!)
- arrowsmith 3y agoAnother example of this is the "historical present": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_present https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_present
- hyperhello 3y agoSubjunctive tense, the wishful or imagined future.
- OJFord 3y agoThe subjunctive is a mood, which is independent of tense. Had I gone [...] Were I working instead of commenting on HN [...] I should be glad if you would [...]
- HerculePoirot 3y agoFuture perfect https://www.cliffsnotes.com/study-guides/french/french-ii/french-ii-future-tenses/the-futur-anterieur https://www.cliffsnotes.com/study-guides/french/french-ii/fr...