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Yes. This. Unifying gun laws in America wouldn't just dike up the blood tide, it could actually increase the responsible shooting public's choice of guns. The

Yes. This. Unifying gun laws in America wouldn't just dike up the blood tide, it could actually increase the responsible shooting public's choice of guns. The sheer number and variety of weapons kept from the US marketplace by the gun lobby is frustrating and hilarious, considering that their war-cry elicits voter anger like almost no other. Let's think about this: how about a National Energetics License Program[0]? Totally free. Base it on something like the Security Clearance program, but make it so it doesn't cost a bazillion dollars. Measure the amount of energy (kJ/S) the handheld can put downrange in, eh, 10 seconds. Divide it by the mass-volume of the device. Create several classes based on this. Class 1: equivalent to single shot weapons, anyone can have it. Class 2: equivalent to low-capacity semiautos, revolvers, requires something like Public Trust clearance. Class 3: equivalent to high cap semiauto, Secret clearance. Class 4: full auto, Top Secret. Etc etc. Also, in my opinion, suppressors don't make it easier to liquidate schoolchildren, but they do keep the quiet outdoors. Nix the tax stamp. Also also? Those eight hundred dollar Chinese M-14 knockoffs? Belgian rifles? Mil-surp SVT-40s? Oh yeah, keep 'em comin'. Colt might be pissed. Screw 'em. In other words, it's a slightly less onerous process than the one you have on your Kia. It would prevent . . almost everything that hits the news, because damn, there is nothing tracking rapid fire weapons, at all. I could drive to the next state over and buy almost literally anything cash in hand, short of an actual full auto. This means that I'd at least need to show I'm not a flake of the first order. And shooters would legit be pretty damn happy. Unless it's that guy with the Rivian who just shovelled fifty thousand dollars into buying a tenth-hand PKM because FULL AUTO. He might be pissed. Screw him. But if you screw with your NEL, oh man, you would be done. So, so, so done. Lose the weapon or get it stolen[1] when it's unsecured? Yeah, you got problems. You'll get bad shit for anything bad that happens with your weapon. Hell, how parents dodge accessory charges for most of these shootings is a mystery to me. In Florida, this one chick left an AR on the sofa with a full mag, a round racked, safety off (State 4, aka Instant state, which means SOMETHIN'S GETTIN' SHOT). Anyway, her kid grabbed it after getting pushed around and shot his buddies outside. The little bastard's in jail basically forever, but her and the fam?> Nah, they're good. That is hot bullshit, and if you don't think so, I'm not sure what else to say. [0] We used to have citizen shooting agencies, back in the day when people didn't think the government was coming to take their babies and testicles. [1] Don't get me started on pawn shops that stay in brisk business while somehow getting a quarter of their inventory "stolen" every six months. Motherfuckers, you're not even trying to hide what you're doing . .

soupfordummies 3y ago
>And shooters would legit be pretty damn happy. I appreciate your well-thought out response but I gotta ask, are you a gun/shooting enthusiast or do you know a lot of them? I ask because I'm related to several and they regard basically ANY regulation/"red tape" as a giant PITA.
- MilStdJunkie 3y ago
  It's the general consensus at the rock pit that guns should at least be like cars, that "Every State For Himself" gun law is ridiculous, and that tax/law around silencers/full auto/cheap foreign milsurp is silly[1]. This could be the geo area I'm in. Also, we're all quite old. Could also be I always end up in really obscure "ranges", due to the fact that more "normal" commercial ranges have regs against shooting mil-surp. Also, hell, they're expensive. I still keep my mouth shut about politics (unless prompted) - I'm not an idiot - but no one is freaking out about the usual freak-out subjects, unless it's a new caliber or some Range Character or something like that. [1] Something that unifies all of that crap into one big license is just better, and if I get cheap import ammo and rifles too? It's a no-brainer - it's less bureaucracy, more fun. I do suspect, however, it's too complex of an idea for Congress to pull off without it getting yoinked into something even stupider. Basically, we need to figure out a way that it makes money for rich people. Also, Democrat leadership - or their committees - will need to learn what a "bolt" is, if they want to effectively legislate on it. The Assault Rifle Bans are King Stupid.
yeetawayhn 3y ago
>I could drive to the next state over and buy almost literally anything cash in hand, short of an actual full auto. You couldn't. At least not legally. Buying firearms from a private party in another state is illegal by federal law. You could only buy long guns from a federally licensed dealer in a neighboring state if that firearm is legal in your state of residence. If you wanted to buy a handgun from a federally licensed dealer, it would have to be transferred to a dealer in your state. >In Florida, this one chick left an AR on the sofa with a full mag, a round racked, safety off (State 4, aka Instant state, which means SOMETHIN'S GETTIN' SHOT). Can you mention where these State levels are defined? What you described sounds closer to Condition 0 on the firearm condition readiness scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Firearm_conditions_of_readiness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Firearm_conditions... >Condition 0: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off. If we're talking about frustrating the gun industry, then all of your licensees should be able to privately manufacture firearms in the classifications they are allowed to have.

soupfordummies 3y ago

>And shooters would legit be pretty damn happy. I appreciate your well-thought out response but I gotta ask, are you a gun/shooting enthusiast or do you know a lot of them? I ask because I'm related to several and they regard basically ANY regulation/"red tape" as a giant PITA.

MilStdJunkie 3y ago
It's the general consensus at the rock pit that guns should at least be like cars, that "Every State For Himself" gun law is ridiculous, and that tax/law around silencers/full auto/cheap foreign milsurp is silly[1]. This could be the geo area I'm in. Also, we're all quite old. Could also be I always end up in really obscure "ranges", due to the fact that more "normal" commercial ranges have regs against shooting mil-surp. Also, hell, they're expensive. I still keep my mouth shut about politics (unless prompted) - I'm not an idiot - but no one is freaking out about the usual freak-out subjects, unless it's a new caliber or some Range Character or something like that. [1] Something that unifies all of that crap into one big license is just better, and if I get cheap import ammo and rifles too? It's a no-brainer - it's less bureaucracy, more fun. I do suspect, however, it's too complex of an idea for Congress to pull off without it getting yoinked into something even stupider. Basically, we need to figure out a way that it makes money for rich people. Also, Democrat leadership - or their committees - will need to learn what a "bolt" is, if they want to effectively legislate on it. The Assault Rifle Bans are King Stupid.

yeetawayhn 3y ago

>I could drive to the next state over and buy almost literally anything cash in hand, short of an actual full auto. You couldn't. At least not legally. Buying firearms from a private party in another state is illegal by federal law. You could only buy long guns from a federally licensed dealer in a neighboring state if that firearm is legal in your state of residence. If you wanted to buy a handgun from a federally licensed dealer, it would have to be transferred to a dealer in your state. >In Florida, this one chick left an AR on the sofa with a full mag, a round racked, safety off (State 4, aka Instant state, which means SOMETHIN'S GETTIN' SHOT). Can you mention where these State levels are defined? What you described sounds closer to Condition 0 on the firearm condition readiness scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Firearm_conditions_of_readiness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Cooper#Firearm_conditions... >Condition 0: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off. If we're talking about frustrating the gun industry, then all of your licensees should be able to privately manufacture firearms in the classifications they are allowed to have.