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What is it with people trying to find some magic diet that changes their lives? By all means dont eat like shit and do your best to be healthy but is there real

What is it with people trying to find some magic diet that changes their lives? By all means dont eat like shit and do your best to be healthy but is there really some obscure diet that humans just never thought of that can unlock unbeknown states of well being? Carnivore diet, all fruit diet, etc. It seems like a modern phenomenon that owes itself to an abundance of cheap food. And perhaps a lot of anxiety, depression, or similar.

squidsoup 3y ago
Many people experiment with diets like this in an attempt to improve auto-immune and chronic conditions which are not well understood by science. I have no idea how efficacious this is, but it seems like a common refrain.
michaelrpeskin 3y ago
I think the search for a magic diet is because of the weird industrial food landscape we're in. Most of our food is designed for cheap production, shelf stable storage, and easy distribution. Nutrition and health aren't really considered. People think "everything in moderation" but when the industrial food supply is so far off of the ancestral norm, moderation really isn't the same thing. You're right people will go off the deep end looking for magic cures. But sometimes a little ancestral influence can help guide us. I've been eating beef, salt, water as my primary food for nearly 15 years. Sometimes I may have a potato here and there with my steak or eggs and bacon for breakfast. But I don't have vegetables or fruit otherwise (they just don't make me feel good). I'm pretty ripped for a middle age guy and have tons of energy and no health problems. I would never proselytize or tell people how to eat, but I do like to give my N=1 data point that shows it's not as crazy as it sounds.
Ensorceled 3y ago
> What is it with people trying to find some magic diet that changes their lives? Obesity has skyrocketed and "people" don't really understand why. "People" were taught the old food pyramid which was terrible, and if they are trying to find out what they should eat ... where do they go? To the same people that published that old pyramid and have updated it? There are so many contradictory and confusing information sources and people are desparate to get their obesity or looming obesity back under control.
dathinab 3y ago
I mean having a unhealthy diet can majorly destroy you life lead to all kind of obvious (malnutrition, blindness, brittle bones etc.) and less obvious (depression, fatigue, mind fog, etc.) issues. So people wanting to not have that and over correcting seems to be quite normal. > obscure diet that humans just never thought of that can unlock no, but there are many diets which proven wise can affect your performance in various ways. Through if you assume a healthy balanced basis they often aren't just net positive, but have some benefit and some drawbacks. sadly there are also tons of bad often worse then inefficient diets which promise other things and not everything which makes you feel good mid term is healthy long term (like oversimplified to short term instead of mid->long term example: fruit sugar is making you feel good short term but is one of the least healthy natural ways to get energy, but juices where for a where long time promoted at healthy by most people, they are not if consumed more then just quite small amounts) > like a modern phenomenon that owes itself to an abundance of cheap food. And perhaps a lot of anxiety, depression, or similar. AFIK it's not really modern but probably as old as civilization and we do have tons of food health issues today - to much sugar - many plants and fruits being much less nutrious (or being much more imbalanced) - highly processed food confusing our digestion system - implanted diets being the norm - biorhythms being completely trashed in all kinds of ways - way way way to much stress - healthy food in some countries being unaffordable expensive for many - traces of pesticides messing with our body - high concentration of cattle and humans making virus and bacteria which affect us pretty bad and spread all over the world (like the bacteria commonly causing tooth decay wasn't a "normal" thing if you go back far enough) - breeding plants changing them in ways which change which gut bacteria dominates, problem here our immune system might not always play well with that bacteria and we have shown to not always adapt to that so well. Oversimplified Coeliac disease is an example of this and is pretty bad as it (if you consume any gluten) kills you over time (through luckily many people which claim to have Coeliac disease do not have it).

squidsoup 3y ago

Many people experiment with diets like this in an attempt to improve auto-immune and chronic conditions which are not well understood by science. I have no idea how efficacious this is, but it seems like a common refrain.

michaelrpeskin 3y ago

I think the search for a magic diet is because of the weird industrial food landscape we're in. Most of our food is designed for cheap production, shelf stable storage, and easy distribution. Nutrition and health aren't really considered. People think "everything in moderation" but when the industrial food supply is so far off of the ancestral norm, moderation really isn't the same thing. You're right people will go off the deep end looking for magic cures. But sometimes a little ancestral influence can help guide us. I've been eating beef, salt, water as my primary food for nearly 15 years. Sometimes I may have a potato here and there with my steak or eggs and bacon for breakfast. But I don't have vegetables or fruit otherwise (they just don't make me feel good). I'm pretty ripped for a middle age guy and have tons of energy and no health problems. I would never proselytize or tell people how to eat, but I do like to give my N=1 data point that shows it's not as crazy as it sounds.

Ensorceled 3y ago

> What is it with people trying to find some magic diet that changes their lives? Obesity has skyrocketed and "people" don't really understand why. "People" were taught the old food pyramid which was terrible, and if they are trying to find out what they should eat ... where do they go? To the same people that published that old pyramid and have updated it? There are so many contradictory and confusing information sources and people are desparate to get their obesity or looming obesity back under control.

dathinab 3y ago

I mean having a unhealthy diet can majorly destroy you life lead to all kind of obvious (malnutrition, blindness, brittle bones etc.) and less obvious (depression, fatigue, mind fog, etc.) issues. So people wanting to not have that and over correcting seems to be quite normal. > obscure diet that humans just never thought of that can unlock no, but there are many diets which proven wise can affect your performance in various ways. Through if you assume a healthy balanced basis they often aren't just net positive, but have some benefit and some drawbacks. sadly there are also tons of bad often worse then inefficient diets which promise other things and not everything which makes you feel good mid term is healthy long term (like oversimplified to short term instead of mid->long term example: fruit sugar is making you feel good short term but is one of the least healthy natural ways to get energy, but juices where for a where long time promoted at healthy by most people, they are not if consumed more then just quite small amounts) > like a modern phenomenon that owes itself to an abundance of cheap food. And perhaps a lot of anxiety, depression, or similar. AFIK it's not really modern but probably as old as civilization and we do have tons of food health issues today - to much sugar - many plants and fruits being much less nutrious (or being much more imbalanced) - highly processed food confusing our digestion system - implanted diets being the norm - biorhythms being completely trashed in all kinds of ways - way way way to much stress - healthy food in some countries being unaffordable expensive for many - traces of pesticides messing with our body - high concentration of cattle and humans making virus and bacteria which affect us pretty bad and spread all over the world (like the bacteria commonly causing tooth decay wasn't a "normal" thing if you go back far enough) - breeding plants changing them in ways which change which gut bacteria dominates, problem here our immune system might not always play well with that bacteria and we have shown to not always adapt to that so well. Oversimplified Coeliac disease is an example of this and is pretty bad as it (if you consume any gluten) kills you over time (through luckily many people which claim to have Coeliac disease do not have it).