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The Meta glasses don’t have a display, it’s just camera and audio.

by jeremyjh 3y ago

Animats 3y ago
Huh? Then how do they deliver ads?
- deleted 3y ago
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- jeremyjh 3y ago
  Presumably they monetize by selling your real-time location and live video feed to your local surveillance authorities or political enemies.
  - ponyous 3y ago
    Is there any source that can back this up? I can't imagine my local police paying to have live locations at all times.
    - smolder 3y ago
      You can't imagine police departments that buy stingray devices and spy illegally with them to also pay for surveillance data? Anyway for real time tracking, police stations can likely get the feds involved which get that info from your telco, who are best buddies with the federal government.
      - ponyous 3y ago
        Yeah... but I am not american, but from a tiny european country. Police makes some requests for data after the fact every year, but as far as I know there are no deals between police and giant american corporations. I'm probably naive.
        smolder 3y ago
        Ah yes, sorry to assume.
        ponyous 3y ago
        That's fair, we are on mostly American website after all! I'm just traveling through France and saw on the news that a woman disappeared. They are trying to find her by triangulating the last location based on nearby cell towers of where she was last seen. So even giant European countries can't/don't use facebook/google to locate people.
- SantalBlush 3y ago
  They deliver ads to the people being filmed with the glasses, once they're identified and tracked by facebook.
  - Gud 3y ago
    I wonder if Zuckerberg one day will wake up and realize what he's doing to the world.
    - LASR 3y ago
      Doesn’t he already? And that’s why he’s doing what he’s doing?
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      "To conclude, it’s worth noting that, at least for a time, product managers at Facebook — Russ’ job before starting DocSend — were required to read Snow Crash as part of their internal training."[0] I think he knows. 0: https://www.deaneckles.com/blog/700_docsend_in_snow_crash/ https://www.deaneckles.com/blog/700_docsend_in_snow_crash/
    - surfingdino 3y ago
      Knowing and reflecting upon what you know are two different things. And even then the outcomes may be different than what you would expect.
- _flux 3y ago
  They'll quietly whisper them into your ear.. !
freedomben 3y ago
Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious. If I bought one and discovered that (despite being able to record and stream video) it had no display, I would be pissed.
- capableweb 3y ago
  > Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious. How? It's not mentioned anywhere that this is about displaying content, but it's very clear it's about capturing video and listening to audio only. Or you want them to put "Notice: No display is included in the device" on the landing page?
  - darkclouds 3y ago
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  - OJFord 3y ago
    To be fair the second sentence in the short top description is about staying connected with calls and messages. I don't think many people's first assumption (without any other context/knowing more) would be that that means having them read out.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      The full quote is: > Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages and listen to your favourite tracks through built-in speakers. Which makes it seem pretty clear they're talking about stuff you can do because of the speakers. Then later: > No more stopping to answer your phone. Also, make calls and send messages on WhatsApp, Messenger and SMS, completely hands-free – simply by using your voice.
      - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
        The first part seems intentionally ambiguously worded to be interpreted as: > (Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages) and (listen to your favourite tracks through built-in speakers) vs: > (Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages and listen to your favourite tracks) through built-in speakers So it's not clear from that wording that there isn't a display, or that the messages are read aloud. An unambiguous wording would be: > listen to your favourite tracks and stay connected with hands-free calls and messages through built-in speakers As, well, the below statement is true whether there is a screen or not, and also doesn't specify that the messages are read aloud: > No more stopping to answer your phone. Also, make calls and send messages on WhatsApp, Messenger and SMS, completely hands-free – simply by using your voice That plus the image of the screen floating next to the glasses definitely make it seem like marketing is trying to trick people into thinking there's a display without explicitly claiming it

The Meta glasses don’t have a display, it’s just camera and audio.

Animats 3y ago

Huh? Then how do they deliver ads?

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jeremyjh 3y ago
Presumably they monetize by selling your real-time location and live video feed to your local surveillance authorities or political enemies.
- ponyous 3y ago
  Is there any source that can back this up? I can't imagine my local police paying to have live locations at all times.
  - smolder 3y ago
    You can't imagine police departments that buy stingray devices and spy illegally with them to also pay for surveillance data? Anyway for real time tracking, police stations can likely get the feds involved which get that info from your telco, who are best buddies with the federal government.
    - ponyous 3y ago
      Yeah... but I am not american, but from a tiny european country. Police makes some requests for data after the fact every year, but as far as I know there are no deals between police and giant american corporations. I'm probably naive.
      - smolder 3y ago
        Ah yes, sorry to assume.
        ponyous 3y ago
        That's fair, we are on mostly American website after all! I'm just traveling through France and saw on the news that a woman disappeared. They are trying to find her by triangulating the last location based on nearby cell towers of where she was last seen. So even giant European countries can't/don't use facebook/google to locate people.
SantalBlush 3y ago
They deliver ads to the people being filmed with the glasses, once they're identified and tracked by facebook.
- Gud 3y ago
  I wonder if Zuckerberg one day will wake up and realize what he's doing to the world.
  - LASR 3y ago
    Doesn’t he already? And that’s why he’s doing what he’s doing?
  - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
    "To conclude, it’s worth noting that, at least for a time, product managers at Facebook — Russ’ job before starting DocSend — were required to read Snow Crash as part of their internal training."[0] I think he knows. 0: https://www.deaneckles.com/blog/700_docsend_in_snow_crash/ https://www.deaneckles.com/blog/700_docsend_in_snow_crash/
  - surfingdino 3y ago
    Knowing and reflecting upon what you know are two different things. And even then the outcomes may be different than what you would expect.
_flux 3y ago
They'll quietly whisper them into your ear.. !

freedomben 3y ago

Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious. If I bought one and discovered that (despite being able to record and stream video) it had no display, I would be pissed.

capableweb 3y ago
> Wow dang, they really should make this more obvious. How? It's not mentioned anywhere that this is about displaying content, but it's very clear it's about capturing video and listening to audio only. Or you want them to put "Notice: No display is included in the device" on the landing page?
- darkclouds 3y ago
  [dead]
- OJFord 3y ago
  To be fair the second sentence in the short top description is about staying connected with calls and messages. I don't think many people's first assumption (without any other context/knowing more) would be that that means having them read out.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    The full quote is: > Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages and listen to your favourite tracks through built-in speakers. Which makes it seem pretty clear they're talking about stuff you can do because of the speakers. Then later: > No more stopping to answer your phone. Also, make calls and send messages on WhatsApp, Messenger and SMS, completely hands-free – simply by using your voice.
    - ImPostingOnHN 3y ago
      The first part seems intentionally ambiguously worded to be interpreted as: > (Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages) and (listen to your favourite tracks through built-in speakers) vs: > (Stay connected with hands-free calls and messages and listen to your favourite tracks) through built-in speakers So it's not clear from that wording that there isn't a display, or that the messages are read aloud. An unambiguous wording would be: > listen to your favourite tracks and stay connected with hands-free calls and messages through built-in speakers As, well, the below statement is true whether there is a screen or not, and also doesn't specify that the messages are read aloud: > No more stopping to answer your phone. Also, make calls and send messages on WhatsApp, Messenger and SMS, completely hands-free – simply by using your voice That plus the image of the screen floating next to the glasses definitely make it seem like marketing is trying to trick people into thinking there's a display without explicitly claiming it