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San Francisco (and cities in general) are places of great opportunity. Limiting that opportunity only to incumbents who already live there is stifling to our na

San Francisco (and cities in general) are places of great opportunity. Limiting that opportunity only to incumbents who already live there is stifling to our nation as a whole, and it's cruel. As a thought experiment, what if we treated immigrants to the country in the same manner... "What if existing US residents don't want to turn it into Mexico by allowing Mexicans into the country. Why can't the Mexicans go to Canada or Guatemala". Allowing more housing to be built is key to allowing more opportunity in a vibrant and active community. Allowing more housing to be built reduces housing costs which lets people flourish. Dense urban areas obviate the need for a car, reducing greenhouse gasses and isolation. All of these are good things.

khazhoux 3y ago
> San Francisco (and cities in general) are places of great opportunity. Limiting that opportunity only to incumbents who already live there is stifling to our nation as a whole, and it's cruel. Instead of punishing residents by doubling their population density (more traffic, more crowded schools, etc), the mega-companies (the "great opportunity") should start hiring elsewhere. And of course we're already seeing that happening post-pandemic. These companies need an endless supply of engineers, sales, and support staff to build out their ad-revenue engines, so that the execs can continue receiving their multi-million RSUs every year... and somehow the residents are cruel for not wanting their city and neighborhoods to change to accommodate them?
- dotnet00 3y ago
  You're phrasing that as if the residents aren't thrilled to have the megacorporation there. They want the company there to drive up their house's value without having to deal with the consequences.
  - nradov 3y ago
    If you talk to long-time Mountain View, CA residents they aren't thrilled about having Google HQ there. Homeowners that bought decades ago have much higher net worth on paper, but the quality of life has gone down.
nradov 3y ago
So why this focus on SF and not on Bakersfield or Cleveland?

khazhoux 3y ago

> San Francisco (and cities in general) are places of great opportunity. Limiting that opportunity only to incumbents who already live there is stifling to our nation as a whole, and it's cruel. Instead of punishing residents by doubling their population density (more traffic, more crowded schools, etc), the mega-companies (the "great opportunity") should start hiring elsewhere. And of course we're already seeing that happening post-pandemic. These companies need an endless supply of engineers, sales, and support staff to build out their ad-revenue engines, so that the execs can continue receiving their multi-million RSUs every year... and somehow the residents are cruel for not wanting their city and neighborhoods to change to accommodate them?

dotnet00 3y ago
You're phrasing that as if the residents aren't thrilled to have the megacorporation there. They want the company there to drive up their house's value without having to deal with the consequences.
- nradov 3y ago
  If you talk to long-time Mountain View, CA residents they aren't thrilled about having Google HQ there. Homeowners that bought decades ago have much higher net worth on paper, but the quality of life has gone down.

nradov 3y ago

So why this focus on SF and not on Bakersfield or Cleveland?