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There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure
by jamesaurichs 3y ago
There's going to be a lot of Russian and Chinese interference in American politics in 2024 for sure
- peepeepoopoo39 3y ago[flagged]
- goodbyesf 3y agoIf there is any foreign interference, it would be from britain, canada, israel, etc. What russian or chinese interference is there when there is 24/7 anti-russian and anti-chinese propaganda?
- seventytwo 3y agoWhy not all of them? American politics have turned into a global influence game.
- catlover76 3y agoYes, "propaganda" like information about the Uighur Genocide and facts about Ukrainian civilians fleeing a war-torn country (an undeniable reality irrespective of what Russia's reasons for invading Ukraine were to begin with).
- FormerBandmate 3y agoLmfao Rishi Sunsk and Justin Trudeau interfering to protect the rights of the oppressed moose minority, make English one of America’s official languages, and reclaim America for the Crown I’m not even going to touch the thinly veiled antisemitic smear
- the_doctah 3y agoJust mentioning Isreal is antisemetic now? Do you work for the ADL?
- FormerBandmate 3y ago“Israel controls the US” fuck off lmao
- libraryatnight 3y agoIt's nasty out there already. Not looking forward to this.
- vuln 3y agoWe can repeat the 2020 election the “most safe and secure” election ever. Funny how Russia and China sat that one out huh? Guess they’d let the other team win one.
- FormerBandmate 3y agoNeither Russia or China has ever interfered with vote totals. No one has ever claimed that
- zdw 3y agoWell, someone did claim this during the 2020 cycle, but in a quite bizarre and totally unsubstantiated way: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/06/arizona-republicans-bamboo-ballots-audit-2020 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/06/arizona-repu...
- junofan 3y agoMy understanding is in some states the laws are written with a Catch-22: you need evidence of hacking to kick off an investigation. So I wouldn’t be that confident. If I were China I’d probably go with a hardware supply chain attack. These machines can sit around for years. I think DARPA’s SSITH program is a step in the right direction. At the very least, I’d feel a lot better with bug bounties on publicly available demonstrators from all manufacturers.
- threeseed 3y agoYou seem to be under the mistaken impression that if Russia/China get involved they are guaranteed to decide the outcome of the election. That is absolutely not the case. There are hundreds of factors that will ultimately decide who wins on the day.
- autoexec 3y agoWhy do you think they didn't try to interfere in the 2020 election?
- unclebucknasty 3y agoThe safe and secure claim was largely around the conduct of the election itself, whereas US adversaries largely deployed disinfo and propaganda tactics to interfere in the election. So, not sure they sat it out as much as the U.S. was a little better prepared. For instance, social media platforms did a better job of not being completely owned as fire hoses for propaganda and disinfo. Of course, some then complained that this constituted "censorship" by the platforms.
- threeseed 3y agoThe worst part is that X/Twitter is deliberately not trying to help this cycle. They pulled out of the EU Code of Practice around disinformation back in May and they have been warned as recently as yesterday that the platform was the worst of all of the social networks at allowing Russian disinformation. And I am sure everyone who used it has seen the massive uptick in bots and other coordinated activity.
- the_doctah 3y agoWe must censor this dangerous disinformation at once! Surely we also need to establish federal oversight commissions to determine what is or is not disinformation, we can't let citizens sort this out for themselves!
- nradov 3y agoFake news. I haven't seen any uptick in bots or coordinated activity. You might be following the wrong sort of accounts.
- threeseed 3y agoThere are countless articles like this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/09/x-twitter-bots-republican-primary-debate-tweets-increase https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/09/x-twitter...
- nradov 3y agoI don't believe that article is accurate. It's more like some guy's biased opinion than a serious quantitative analysis.
- PawgerZ 3y agoYou might be following the wrong set of accounts
- shashurup 3y agoThe fact that this always surpises americans doesn't stop to amaze me. American politcs to some extent affects literally everybody on the planet. But only 300M of them are allowed to vote directly. I consider this situation unjust :)