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You know what would be even better? If you could reliably uninstall all this junk or not even install it at all. Every time I hit some button on my keyboard an

by aeyes 3y ago

You know what would be even better? If you could reliably uninstall all this junk or not even install it at all. Every time I hit some button on my keyboard and the Music app opens asking me to create an account I am reminded how hostile all commercial operating systems are.

bombcar 3y ago
Somehow on migrating to a new iPhone the music app decided it needed full notification permissions, apparently because a new Taylor swift album is of the same notification level as an incoming missile strike. At least it’s easy enough to turn off.
- aeyes 3y ago
  At least they didn't "gift" you the album like they did with U2
  - eastbound 3y ago
    Oh man, I have never loaded music on my phone, so whenever the car starts, it plays the first song on the iPhone. I hate U2! And I hate that they’re receiving money each I do this!
    - bzzzt 3y ago
      Do they though? It was a gifted digital 'purchase', not a stream. Anyway, seems you can contact Apple support to permanently remove the album from your account.
  - lynx23 3y ago
    Oh yeah, esp. funny if you always hated U2, and suddenly it appears in the middle of your music collection. Same with "Alone at home", not quite my taste.
- threeseed 3y ago
  Music has always asked for notification permissions. It's useful for people like me who want to know when new albums are released.
gnicholas 3y ago
Oh man, it gets worse than that. After updating to iOS 17 the other day, I said to my phone "play OverCast" (my podcast app). It used to start playing from that app. This time, it started playing a band called Overcast, and told me I had just started a 7 day free trial of Apple Music. What the actual fuck.
- chatmasta 3y ago
  brb, starting a band called "Spotify" and opening a 24/7 convenience store called "Google Maps"
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    It's not a bug, it's a feature. People have done crazier things! Didn't Steve Jobs once say that part of the reason he named the company Apple was because it would be before Atari in the phone book? [1] 1: https://www.macworld.com/article/673923/why-is-apple-called-apple.html#:~:text=Back%20when%20Apple%20was%20founded,for%20whom%20Jobs%20had%20worked https://www.macworld.com/article/673923/why-is-apple-called-...).
    - rib3ye 3y ago
      Not just in the phone books. Ever wonder why the stock ticker has two A’s?
      - jen729w 3y ago
        If you’re picking stocks by order of the alphabet you deserve what you get. Which, incidentally, was a tremendous return.
        rib3ye 3y ago
        Once upon a time, stocks were listed alphabetically in something called newspapers.
  - RunSet 3y ago
amatecha 3y ago
It's interesting, I've been using OpenBSD for the past couple years and it has _not once_ enraged me the way Windows and Mac do. I still use Windows for work, and own a ton of Macs (probably getting close to ~30 by now), but OpenBSD is the OS I use for most general computing stuff. I mean, I'm using a GUI that is really primitive by comparison to Win/Mac (i3wm) but it's actually great. Extremely fast, efficient, and stays out of my way. There is literally no mechanism in the OS to pop up a notification or bounce an icon or blink anything at me. It couldn't interrupt me and piss me off even if some piece of software wanted to. It's amazing. Nothing updates on its own, and the OS runs very very few services or other background stuff -- basically only whatever I have explicitly configured and enabled. Again, awesome. I'm easily aware of every single process that runs on this machine, and if there's one I don't know about, there's comprehensive documentation about it, including how to configure it. That's honestly effectively impossible for someone using Mac or Windows. Oh, I just installed a security patch in about 20 seconds. Open terminal (winkey->enter), "doas syspatch -c", type pass, see there's a patch, "doas syspatch" to apply it, done in 2 seconds. Once I reboot the newly-patched kernel is active. There is full documentation of the patch, including why it's needed, how the patch resolves the issue, and a diff of the patch is included.
- reacharavindh 3y ago
  I love OpenBSD…… as a server particularly as a DNS or a network gateway with pf as a firewall. But, I cannot fathom how using OpenBSD on a Desktop/Laptop for personal computing would NoT enrage me everyday. The things I’d do on my personal computer : 1. Browse all bloated modern websites using a modern web browser - Firefox 2. Work with photos(personal) - edit them, crop them to share with someone, markup screenshots to put in docs etc. 3. Use PDFs without worrying about formats, markup on them as needed, fill forms on PDFs. 4. Media - playback audio and video. Without worrying about whether I have the right codecs or file formats. Wouldn’t OpenBSD make me constantly fight against its opinionated safety first way of doing things? Sure, one can run Firefox on OpenBSD, but would it play YouTube and Netflix without making me pull my hair? I can install ffmpeg, relevant codecs, PDF tools, Darktable or other Unix friendly photo tools, but wouldn’t that be a constant fight and tweaking to keep them running?
dmt0 3y ago
You absolutely need this: https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes
- rawland 3y ago
  One of the best comments in this thread. Thanks.
- wlk 3y ago
  Alternatively run: launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.rcd.plist
  - aeyes 3y ago
    I tried it but unfortunately it also disables media control (pause/skip) from the keyboard in other applications.
willtemperley 3y ago
Reliably removing the U2 album from Apple Music seems impossible. Deleting the album which has helpfully redownloaded itself is now a ritual before I start my car - otherwise it starts playing as soon as bluetooth connects - which is just what I need when I'm pulling away in busy traffic.
- cormacrelf 3y ago
  “A a a a a very good song” to the rescue. https://music.apple.com/au/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-silent-track/1268932999?i=1268933000 https://music.apple.com/au/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-si... Also available on iTunes for a dollar, search for Samir Mezrahi (the blessed soul who made this).
  - willtemperley 3y ago
    That's hilarious. Actually Apple support have just removed U2 permanently from my account. Feeling mildly victorious.
klausbert 3y ago
I agree with you. Apple Music is particularly annoying. I recommend this free little utility: https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes
- crossroadsguy 3y ago
  I had to mildly fight with my company’s security team to get this app allowed on my work mac.

by aeyes 3y ago

bombcar 3y ago

Somehow on migrating to a new iPhone the music app decided it needed full notification permissions, apparently because a new Taylor swift album is of the same notification level as an incoming missile strike. At least it’s easy enough to turn off.

aeyes 3y ago
At least they didn't "gift" you the album like they did with U2
- eastbound 3y ago
  Oh man, I have never loaded music on my phone, so whenever the car starts, it plays the first song on the iPhone. I hate U2! And I hate that they’re receiving money each I do this!
  - bzzzt 3y ago
    Do they though? It was a gifted digital 'purchase', not a stream. Anyway, seems you can contact Apple support to permanently remove the album from your account.
- lynx23 3y ago
  Oh yeah, esp. funny if you always hated U2, and suddenly it appears in the middle of your music collection. Same with "Alone at home", not quite my taste.
threeseed 3y ago
Music has always asked for notification permissions. It's useful for people like me who want to know when new albums are released.

gnicholas 3y ago

Oh man, it gets worse than that. After updating to iOS 17 the other day, I said to my phone "play OverCast" (my podcast app). It used to start playing from that app. This time, it started playing a band called Overcast, and told me I had just started a 7 day free trial of Apple Music. What the actual fuck.

chatmasta 3y ago
brb, starting a band called "Spotify" and opening a 24/7 convenience store called "Google Maps"
- gnicholas 3y ago
  It's not a bug, it's a feature. People have done crazier things! Didn't Steve Jobs once say that part of the reason he named the company Apple was because it would be before Atari in the phone book? [1] 1: https://www.macworld.com/article/673923/why-is-apple-called-apple.html#:~:text=Back%20when%20Apple%20was%20founded,for%20whom%20Jobs%20had%20worked https://www.macworld.com/article/673923/why-is-apple-called-...).
  - rib3ye 3y ago
    Not just in the phone books. Ever wonder why the stock ticker has two A’s?
    - jen729w 3y ago
      If you’re picking stocks by order of the alphabet you deserve what you get. Which, incidentally, was a tremendous return.
      - rib3ye 3y ago
        Once upon a time, stocks were listed alphabetically in something called newspapers.
- RunSet 3y ago

amatecha 3y ago

It's interesting, I've been using OpenBSD for the past couple years and it has _not once_ enraged me the way Windows and Mac do. I still use Windows for work, and own a ton of Macs (probably getting close to ~30 by now), but OpenBSD is the OS I use for most general computing stuff. I mean, I'm using a GUI that is really primitive by comparison to Win/Mac (i3wm) but it's actually great. Extremely fast, efficient, and stays out of my way. There is literally no mechanism in the OS to pop up a notification or bounce an icon or blink anything at me. It couldn't interrupt me and piss me off even if some piece of software wanted to. It's amazing. Nothing updates on its own, and the OS runs very very few services or other background stuff -- basically only whatever I have explicitly configured and enabled. Again, awesome. I'm easily aware of every single process that runs on this machine, and if there's one I don't know about, there's comprehensive documentation about it, including how to configure it. That's honestly effectively impossible for someone using Mac or Windows. Oh, I just installed a security patch in about 20 seconds. Open terminal (winkey->enter), "doas syspatch -c", type pass, see there's a patch, "doas syspatch" to apply it, done in 2 seconds. Once I reboot the newly-patched kernel is active. There is full documentation of the patch, including why it's needed, how the patch resolves the issue, and a diff of the patch is included.

reacharavindh 3y ago
I love OpenBSD…… as a server particularly as a DNS or a network gateway with pf as a firewall. But, I cannot fathom how using OpenBSD on a Desktop/Laptop for personal computing would NoT enrage me everyday. The things I’d do on my personal computer : 1. Browse all bloated modern websites using a modern web browser - Firefox 2. Work with photos(personal) - edit them, crop them to share with someone, markup screenshots to put in docs etc. 3. Use PDFs without worrying about formats, markup on them as needed, fill forms on PDFs. 4. Media - playback audio and video. Without worrying about whether I have the right codecs or file formats. Wouldn’t OpenBSD make me constantly fight against its opinionated safety first way of doing things? Sure, one can run Firefox on OpenBSD, but would it play YouTube and Netflix without making me pull my hair? I can install ffmpeg, relevant codecs, PDF tools, Darktable or other Unix friendly photo tools, but wouldn’t that be a constant fight and tweaking to keep them running?

dmt0 3y ago

You absolutely need this: https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes

rawland 3y ago
One of the best comments in this thread. Thanks.
wlk 3y ago
Alternatively run: launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.rcd.plist
- aeyes 3y ago
  I tried it but unfortunately it also disables media control (pause/skip) from the keyboard in other applications.

willtemperley 3y ago

Reliably removing the U2 album from Apple Music seems impossible. Deleting the album which has helpfully redownloaded itself is now a ritual before I start my car - otherwise it starts playing as soon as bluetooth connects - which is just what I need when I'm pulling away in busy traffic.

cormacrelf 3y ago
“A a a a a very good song” to the rescue. https://music.apple.com/au/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-silent-track/1268932999?i=1268933000 https://music.apple.com/au/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-si... Also available on iTunes for a dollar, search for Samir Mezrahi (the blessed soul who made this).
- willtemperley 3y ago
  That's hilarious. Actually Apple support have just removed U2 permanently from my account. Feeling mildly victorious.

klausbert 3y ago

I agree with you. Apple Music is particularly annoying. I recommend this free little utility: https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes https://github.com/tombonez/noTunes

crossroadsguy 3y ago
I had to mildly fight with my company’s security team to get this app allowed on my work mac.