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Personally I think it just comes down to the student cheating themselves. If they're in a job interview and don't have ChatGPT handy AND they've been using Cha

Personally I think it just comes down to the student cheating themselves. If they're in a job interview and don't have ChatGPT handy AND they've been using ChatGPT to get answers directly instead of asking how to arrive at the answer, I think they're going to have a hard time getting that job. However, if they always have ChatGPT available and can always get the right answers (either by luck, prompt engineering skills, or an ability to determine if an answer is correct), I don't see them having a hard time competing in the workplace at all for most commonly solved problems. Hopefully the teacher would do a sufficient job teaching such that if the non-ChatGPT-using student puts forth adequate effort, they'll be able to get the answers as well, but maybe not as quickly as those using ChatGPT.

foobarian 3y ago
And then the kid who refrained from cheating themselves by using ChatGPT arrives at the job interview, gets asked to answer a bunch of difficult questions with the help of ChatGPT, and fails because of lack of modern computer skills. :-)
WendyTheWillow 3y ago
Yeah, if you take school as an adversarial system, you might see LLMs as a threat, but Harvard doesn’t see it that way. To them, college is a chance to grow your understanding of a wide variety of topics, and to gain expertise in one (or two) topics. Nobody thinking like that would see LLMs as a risk.
bick_nyers 3y ago
To me this seems a very similar argument to when Google/Wikipedia were gaining relevance. Many IT professionals agree that most of their job is knowing how to Google things. Sure they need to know how to read manuals, forum posts, find product numbers/specs., simplify the information for the end user, etc., but at the end of the day the skill is mostly knowing how to properly and effectively leverage an external source of knowledge/wisdom/intelligence in a occupational domain. ChatGPT is just Google on steroids in this respect.
- palata 3y ago
  > ChatGPT is just Google on steroids in this respect. Which doesn't mean it is not creating a new problem, does it? "A car is just a skateboard on steroids", still we created many laws around the use of cars.

foobarian 3y ago

And then the kid who refrained from cheating themselves by using ChatGPT arrives at the job interview, gets asked to answer a bunch of difficult questions with the help of ChatGPT, and fails because of lack of modern computer skills. :-)

WendyTheWillow 3y ago

Yeah, if you take school as an adversarial system, you might see LLMs as a threat, but Harvard doesn’t see it that way. To them, college is a chance to grow your understanding of a wide variety of topics, and to gain expertise in one (or two) topics. Nobody thinking like that would see LLMs as a risk.

bick_nyers 3y ago

To me this seems a very similar argument to when Google/Wikipedia were gaining relevance. Many IT professionals agree that most of their job is knowing how to Google things. Sure they need to know how to read manuals, forum posts, find product numbers/specs., simplify the information for the end user, etc., but at the end of the day the skill is mostly knowing how to properly and effectively leverage an external source of knowledge/wisdom/intelligence in a occupational domain. ChatGPT is just Google on steroids in this respect.

palata 3y ago
> ChatGPT is just Google on steroids in this respect. Which doesn't mean it is not creating a new problem, does it? "A car is just a skateboard on steroids", still we created many laws around the use of cars.