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> that they would write me a short answer about what piqued their interest Honest question: do people actually apply to jobs because it piques their interest?

> that they would write me a short answer about what piqued their interest Honest question: do people actually apply to jobs because it piques their interest? I pretty much just... need a job. I'll assess whether I want to join based almost purely on the team - if the team doesn't feel right, I'll skip. I don't apply for any jobs that require a cover letter. There's already enough information asymmetry and the effort required from the candidate is a lot higher than from the company as the company can distribute the work across multiple employees. A cover letter is a way to shift even more work to the candidate.

vineyardmike 3y ago
I also don’t apply for jobs where I have to write a cover-letter. Last time I was laid off (when I was forced to find a new job), I applied in 2 pools - jobs that piqued my interests and jobs that paid me money so I can live. In the first group, when asked I could easily drone on about the interesting work they publish or whatever. The second group… I could scrap together a smile and a thin lie about how they’re a really impactful place based on what I learned from their homepage. When applying for jobs because I want a change, not because I need a salary, then yea it’s exclusively applications to interesting companies and teams.
- shrimp_emoji 3y ago
  Same. I assumed cover letters were for non-programmers and that places that demand them are trying to hire programmers with an antiquated/non-programmer interview process, which I interpreted as a red flag.
sdflhasjd 3y ago
People who already have a job and are wanting to move will have reasons for wanting a shift (frequently besides just salary).
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- verve_rat 3y ago
  But that is about leaving the last place, not why I want to work at the next one.
  - DoctorDabadedoo 3y ago
    If you have the luxury to choose and are not in the loop of "I need a job by MM/dd otherwise I'm screwed", this is more evident, be it because the business area is more interesting or more aligned to your own values, the product looks great and engaging, you're changing industries, etc.
tsak 3y ago
I was only curious about _why_ the candidate had applied, given the ChatGPT generated cover letter. And a simple "because I am looking for a job and I think I match who you're looking for" would have sufficed in my opinion. We actually don't require a cover letter in the first place. But if there is one, I'll read it of course.
fnands 3y ago
> Honest question: do people actually apply to jobs because it piques their interest? Yes? I mean, I have to work somewhere, but I'd prefer to work on problems that I find interesting. > I don't apply for any jobs that require a cover letter. Where I work cover letters are optional, and give the candidate a bit of extra space to explain how their experience is relevant to the role. I find this becomes less and less relevant with seniority: if you are an obvious fit with oodles of experience then the letter won't tell us much. But I find the letters pretty interesting for more junior candidates, or people coming in from different industries.

vineyardmike 3y ago

I also don’t apply for jobs where I have to write a cover-letter. Last time I was laid off (when I was forced to find a new job), I applied in 2 pools - jobs that piqued my interests and jobs that paid me money so I can live. In the first group, when asked I could easily drone on about the interesting work they publish or whatever. The second group… I could scrap together a smile and a thin lie about how they’re a really impactful place based on what I learned from their homepage. When applying for jobs because I want a change, not because I need a salary, then yea it’s exclusively applications to interesting companies and teams.

shrimp_emoji 3y ago
Same. I assumed cover letters were for non-programmers and that places that demand them are trying to hire programmers with an antiquated/non-programmer interview process, which I interpreted as a red flag.

sdflhasjd 3y ago

People who already have a job and are wanting to move will have reasons for wanting a shift (frequently besides just salary).

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verve_rat 3y ago
But that is about leaving the last place, not why I want to work at the next one.
- DoctorDabadedoo 3y ago
  If you have the luxury to choose and are not in the loop of "I need a job by MM/dd otherwise I'm screwed", this is more evident, be it because the business area is more interesting or more aligned to your own values, the product looks great and engaging, you're changing industries, etc.

tsak 3y ago

I was only curious about _why_ the candidate had applied, given the ChatGPT generated cover letter. And a simple "because I am looking for a job and I think I match who you're looking for" would have sufficed in my opinion. We actually don't require a cover letter in the first place. But if there is one, I'll read it of course.

fnands 3y ago

> Honest question: do people actually apply to jobs because it piques their interest? Yes? I mean, I have to work somewhere, but I'd prefer to work on problems that I find interesting. > I don't apply for any jobs that require a cover letter. Where I work cover letters are optional, and give the candidate a bit of extra space to explain how their experience is relevant to the role. I find this becomes less and less relevant with seniority: if you are an obvious fit with oodles of experience then the letter won't tell us much. But I find the letters pretty interesting for more junior candidates, or people coming in from different industries.