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> Citation needed. I know Google has a problem finding people fast enough. Could that be Google's cultural problem? I have not real knowledge or understanding

by tivert 3y ago

> Citation needed. I know Google has a problem finding people fast enough. Could that be Google's cultural problem? I have not real knowledge or understanding of this, but I was under the vague impression Google is unusually picky and elitist about who it hires (e.g. they want advanced degrees, an elite school background, or a FAANG background, and will turn up their nose at most normal folks).

kuchenbecker 3y ago
Caveat: hopefully my experience was a fluke and if I was to repeat it I would get a different outcome. I wouldn't want to judge them based on a single experience. My last round of interviews they down leveled me, yet I had a lateral offer from Waymo, and other companies upleveled me. I was interviewing for a specific role, but my interviewers were from areas around the company that gave interview questions relevant to their area but not the area I was interviewing for, and was well outside my expertise. I objectively didn't do as well as other interviews. Waymo, on the other hand stuck to my strengths in the interview process and was genuinely engaged with me finding a role there that Met my skills (I very regretfully turned the role down).
- kridsdale3 3y ago
  They also tried to down-level me. I said no (here is a competing offer). They said we'll get back to you. 2 weeks later, a good offer.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    I believe Google actively, aggressively tries to downlevel people so that I can pay them less. And then move promo cycle to be as long as possible, also to suppress wages
claytongulick 3y ago
That wasn't my experience. I'm a self educated (white male, if that matters) and was actively recruited by Google for a TPM position multiple times. Honestly, the only reason I'm not working there today is because I wasn't willing to relocate to NYC, and they (strangely) aren't very remote friendly.
kevingadd 3y ago
Google is very picky about who they hire depending on which org you're being hired for, since you need to basically win a bunch of dice rolls to get interviewers who 1) understand what you're being interviewed for (are you a linux kernel programmer? better hope they don't assign you an Android Java Frontend guy) 2) are good at interviewing (this is a difficult skill!) and 3) don't dislike you for any particular reason
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by tivert 3y ago

kuchenbecker 3y ago

Caveat: hopefully my experience was a fluke and if I was to repeat it I would get a different outcome. I wouldn't want to judge them based on a single experience. My last round of interviews they down leveled me, yet I had a lateral offer from Waymo, and other companies upleveled me. I was interviewing for a specific role, but my interviewers were from areas around the company that gave interview questions relevant to their area but not the area I was interviewing for, and was well outside my expertise. I objectively didn't do as well as other interviews. Waymo, on the other hand stuck to my strengths in the interview process and was genuinely engaged with me finding a role there that Met my skills (I very regretfully turned the role down).

kridsdale3 3y ago
They also tried to down-level me. I said no (here is a competing offer). They said we'll get back to you. 2 weeks later, a good offer.
- sitkack 3y ago
  I believe Google actively, aggressively tries to downlevel people so that I can pay them less. And then move promo cycle to be as long as possible, also to suppress wages

claytongulick 3y ago

That wasn't my experience. I'm a self educated (white male, if that matters) and was actively recruited by Google for a TPM position multiple times. Honestly, the only reason I'm not working there today is because I wasn't willing to relocate to NYC, and they (strangely) aren't very remote friendly.

kevingadd 3y ago

Google is very picky about who they hire depending on which org you're being hired for, since you need to basically win a bunch of dice rolls to get interviewers who 1) understand what you're being interviewed for (are you a linux kernel programmer? better hope they don't assign you an Android Java Frontend guy) 2) are good at interviewing (this is a difficult skill!) and 3) don't dislike you for any particular reason

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