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Huh, more negative than I expected. For some reason I had Bitwarden as an HN darling in my head. Not sure where I got that from. I pay for premium for $10 a yea

by jjice 3y ago

Huh, more negative than I expected. For some reason I had Bitwarden as an HN darling in my head. Not sure where I got that from. I pay for premium for $10 a year. Not sure what I actually take advantage of with that honestly but I just really like the product. That said, it's not based on a lot of competition searching. Am I missing out on some big benefits in other managers?

StevePerkins 3y ago
Really surprised by this as well. So many comments are of the generic nature, "<COMPETING PRODUCT> is miles ahead", without any specifics on what that's supposed to mean. My last few employers have used LastPass and 1Password, while I use Bitwarden for my personal stuff, and I prefer the latter by far. The browser plugin is more reliable about recognizing when I'm entering or updating a password, and offering to store or update it. The iOS version has smoother integration with password autocomplete in other native apps. It MAY be that Bitwarden lags behind in "team" sharing features, I don't know. For personal use, that class of use cases is irrelevant to me. As near as I can tell, there seems to be a lot of HN rage that "most" of Bitwarden is open source, but there are still some proprietary bits that keep it from 100%. I never understand this mentality, that software should fall from the sky like manna from heaven and not support a business. I also don't understand why these resentments never seem to stick to products like VS Code, that are the exact same way. Maybe Bitwarden should just try a sexier-looking dark mode UI?
- nativeit 3y ago
  I’m with you on this. I tried every popular option a few years ago and found all of them to be rather atrocious, but settled on self-hosting VW, and found its mobile integration (using BW clients/apps) to be as close to native as anything, and its 2FA (for TOTP anyway) is superb. Nothing else thus far allows me to launch a website or app and login with 2FA faster than Bitwarden. I operate under the assumption that everything has a weak spot, at least Vaultwarden isn’t hiding the source code and if BW’s VC backers dictate some kind of rule-breaking change to the service, it won’t affect my data and forks/OSS alternatives will be easily readied to interface with it.
yoyohello13 3y ago
There is a weird phenomenon in software where the open source solution is held to a higher standard than other software in the space. I also have premium Bitwarden and I love it. My org uses a different "Enterprise" grade password manager and it's way more complicated to use and the interface is slower. I just have a rule that if I can get 80% of the same features with an open source solution I'll use it, even if it's not "the best."
marisnom 3y ago
I've also used Bitwarden for a while now, and it works perfectly for me I have no real complaints about it. It just works and does what it needs.
Scipio_Afri 3y ago
Feels like an orchestrated attempt at taking down a competitor to be honest. HN has had nothing but praise about Bitwarden before this. I use it and have had nearly none of the issues people are complaining about here; the one complaint I have would be the biometrics login with the desktop app being clunky - not a show stopper.

by jjice 3y ago

StevePerkins 3y ago

Really surprised by this as well. So many comments are of the generic nature, "<COMPETING PRODUCT> is miles ahead", without any specifics on what that's supposed to mean. My last few employers have used LastPass and 1Password, while I use Bitwarden for my personal stuff, and I prefer the latter by far. The browser plugin is more reliable about recognizing when I'm entering or updating a password, and offering to store or update it. The iOS version has smoother integration with password autocomplete in other native apps. It MAY be that Bitwarden lags behind in "team" sharing features, I don't know. For personal use, that class of use cases is irrelevant to me. As near as I can tell, there seems to be a lot of HN rage that "most" of Bitwarden is open source, but there are still some proprietary bits that keep it from 100%. I never understand this mentality, that software should fall from the sky like manna from heaven and not support a business. I also don't understand why these resentments never seem to stick to products like VS Code, that are the exact same way. Maybe Bitwarden should just try a sexier-looking dark mode UI?

nativeit 3y ago
I’m with you on this. I tried every popular option a few years ago and found all of them to be rather atrocious, but settled on self-hosting VW, and found its mobile integration (using BW clients/apps) to be as close to native as anything, and its 2FA (for TOTP anyway) is superb. Nothing else thus far allows me to launch a website or app and login with 2FA faster than Bitwarden. I operate under the assumption that everything has a weak spot, at least Vaultwarden isn’t hiding the source code and if BW’s VC backers dictate some kind of rule-breaking change to the service, it won’t affect my data and forks/OSS alternatives will be easily readied to interface with it.

yoyohello13 3y ago

There is a weird phenomenon in software where the open source solution is held to a higher standard than other software in the space. I also have premium Bitwarden and I love it. My org uses a different "Enterprise" grade password manager and it's way more complicated to use and the interface is slower. I just have a rule that if I can get 80% of the same features with an open source solution I'll use it, even if it's not "the best."

marisnom 3y ago

I've also used Bitwarden for a while now, and it works perfectly for me I have no real complaints about it. It just works and does what it needs.

Scipio_Afri 3y ago

Feels like an orchestrated attempt at taking down a competitor to be honest. HN has had nothing but praise about Bitwarden before this. I use it and have had nearly none of the issues people are complaining about here; the one complaint I have would be the biometrics login with the desktop app being clunky - not a show stopper.