7 ms·
I wonder if this will result in remote job applications excluding candidates from New York, as we've seen with other states. Although once a critical mass of st
by entuno 3y ago
I wonder if this will result in remote job applications excluding candidates from New York, as we've seen with other states. Although once a critical mass of states start requiring this, that won't really be an option any more.
- wildrhythms 3y agoCalifornia implemented this and I haven't seen any data to support that Californians are being excluded from applying for jobs.
- entuno 3y agoI don't have any stats to back it up, but I've seen various threads and discussions on Reddit where people are flagging jobs adverts that exclude people from those state - for instance: https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/168ce1e/saw_this_restriction_in_a_job_posting_today/ https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/168ce1e/saw...
- robertlagrant 3y agoIt's for New York employers only, is it not? Or do you need a presence in NY to employ people there?
- the_gipsy 3y agoIf they hire employees that reside in NY they have to make ranges public in the offer.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI can't find that in the article; where did you see this?
- ta8645 3y agoThat seems unlikely, since they do not have legal jurisdiction over say a company in Belgium who is advertising worldwide for employees.
- sokoloff 3y agoIntent and reasonably foreseeable outcomes probably matters here. If that company in Belgium advertises worldwide and somehow hires many people who live in New York, you bet NY will argue (successfully) that they have to follow this law, at least prospectively, as it affects residents of their state and the DoL has jurisdiction over protecting the labor rights of its residents.
- robertlagrant 3y agoWhat does that mean in practice?
- ta1243 3y agoI wonder if they'll also be agreeing to enforce the GDPR because New York companies sell services to Belgium citizens
- the_gipsy 3y agoGDPR is already enforced on American companies serving EU citizens. Only if the American company never intends to do business in the EU can they get away with breaching it.
- jabradoodle 3y agoApart from just about every cookie banner in existence which is in breach of gdpr and as of yet basically no consequence.
- sokoloff 3y agoThat's equally true of Belgian and New York companies, though.
- altdataseller 3y agoAnd also if the employee will report to someone who’s based in NY
- ImPostingOnHN 3y agothat is reminiscent of data protection laws which apply if you're processing the data of [sometimes >N] residents from country or U.S. state X, even if you have no presence there
- KoftaBob 3y agoNope, it pertains to where the job itself is listed as being based. If the company is HQ'd in NYC, but the listing is for a job based out of their Miami office, then the law doesn't apply.
- hiatus 3y agoThe article seems to contradict your statement. > The law, signed by Gov. Kathy Hochul in 2022, also will apply to remote employees who work outside of New York but report to a supervisor, office or worksite based in the state.
- the_gipsy 3y agoThat's not a contradiction.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- bee_rider 3y agoCalifornia and NY, so the critical mass has probably already been hit for some upscale fields, haha.
- bbarn 3y agoIf it does, good. Those are companies you probably don't want to work for. In California, we also have a minimum pay here for exempt software engineers - it's $112,065.20, which is higher than the US median salary for software developers. My company applies that same standard nationwide with remote engineers, so kind of the opposite of what you're saying.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- xur17 3y agoI'm curious how much overlap there is in these salary range requirements between states. I believe California, Colorado, and New York require them, but I wonder if they are actually all consistent in terms of what needs to be included, or if we'll end up in a case where you have to carefully craft your job listing to be compliant with all states (or have a different one for each state).