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His point is, there are data limited environments. This point stands, no matter what you think of his cruise? Also, who can decide, what is really necessary?
by hutzlibu 3y ago
His point is, there are data limited environments.
This point stands, no matter what you think of his cruise?
Also, who can decide, what is really necessary? And I don't have hard data at hand, but I cannot imagine a cruise to be more expensive in its impact, compared to flying somewhere for vacation.
- KineticLensman 3y agoCruise ships directly introduce pollutants into the local maritime environment. These include oily bilge water, grey water, and others, not including sulfur emissions from the engines
- b112 3y agoHow do you know it wasn't a green cruise vessel? One with filters, or storage tanks. Do you know? Do you? Or is it a presumption? (Googling now to find out if this even exists, doesn't remove the presumptive nature of things.)
- jzb 3y agoIf you have to search to see if the Devil’s Advocate alternative you’re trying to gotcha OP on, who is being presumptive? Maybe you could’ve searched first? The vast majority of cruises are pretty shitty for the environment and treatment of people. Also tax avoidant. People just really don’t want to hear that so they can keep doing them and not think about the down sides.
- lostlogin 3y agoOP was working on a survey ship, as mentioned in another thread.
- johnchristopher 3y agoYou are confusing two different people: > killjoywashere 46 minutes ago | undown | root | parent | next [–] > I'm on an ship doing oceanographic survey work in the arctic. and > TrackerFF 2 hours ago | prev | next [–] > Recently I was on a cruise ship, and out in the waters only my carriers “maritime” plan was available
- lostlogin 3y agoArgh, I was. Thanks.
- b112 3y agoIf you have to search to see if the Devil’s Advocate alternative you’re trying to gotcha OP on, who is being presumptive? Maybe you could’ve searched first? My point had to do with the extreme accusatory nature of the post, without data to back it up. My post was absolutely the reverse of presumptive, for I asked is someone was being so, not asserting that they were.
- kergonath 3y agoA green cruise ship is like a green aircraft or a green car: it does not really exist. Just building it is already costly, and so is operating it. Filters and tanks are just shifting the problem, as well. But that’s beside the point anyway, as it was just raised as an ad hominem argument against the guy who wanted websites to work on poor connections, and rightly so.
- sambazi 3y ago> I cannot imagine a cruise to be more expensive in its impact, compared to flying somewhere for vacation. train your imagination, i'd say
- hutzlibu 3y agoMy imagination is augmented by some physic education, so I know how much fuel a starting plane consumes, as well as flying around the globe with ~1000 km/h. A ship on the other hand is very fuel efficient. But it maybe runs longer, if it is a cruise. Still, 2 flights forn1 week vacation are likely way worse, than 1 week cruise. (And I will likely go by train towards my vacation, but this is not always possible)
- kergonath 3y ago> A ship on the other hand is very fuel efficient. They also run on absolutely terrible fuel, very low quality and with lots of impurities. Pollution is not only greenhouse gases. I am not saying planes are much better, but both are really quite bad.
- freddie_mercury 3y ago> His point is, there are data limited environments. So? Why should Google care? Out of the goodness of their hearts? Switch to an email provider that caters to your data limited environment.
- seunosewa 3y agoThey should care because customers need the feature occasionally?
- freddie_mercury 3y agoSo? No business implements every single feature that might occasionally be useful to a miniscule portion of its customer base.
- hutzlibu 3y agoFaster loading times are useful for everyone. And there are plenty of people with bad connection.