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Tangential: if we're talking Lisp and native code speed, Steel Bank Common Lisp (by default) compiles everything to machine code. [0] https://sbcl.org https://

Tangential: if we're talking Lisp and native code speed, Steel Bank Common Lisp (by default) compiles everything to machine code. [0] https://sbcl.org https://sbcl.org

ska 3y ago
Compiled lisps have been a thing for nearly as long as lisps have. IIRC the first one was in early 1960s. It's a cultural oddity how strongly people seem to associate them with interpreted code.
- Zambyte 3y ago
  I think it's because people (rightfully) associate interactive programming with Lisp, and (wrongfully) associate interpreting with interactive programing, since loading compiled machine code into a running program is foreign to most people who do not use Lisp.
sitkack 3y ago
(not (eq? 'lisp 'scheme)) If you want native code from Scheme, using Gambit.
- JasonFruit 3y ago
  From the title: "Lisp with native code speed".
  - binary132 3y ago
    >chez scheme
    - kaashif 3y ago
      What does this comment mean? Can you elaborate?
      - binary132 3y ago
        Article is about a Scheme implementation. User didn't want to talk about Common Lisp. Other user pointed out that the title of the article says "lisp". My comment points out that the article also says "scheme". Scheme is a Lisp. Not all Lisps are Scheme. Hope that clarifies.
- jll29 3y ago
  Chez Scheme outperforms Gambit in the benchmarks cited in a commment above. Chez Scheme has a few interesting features that most compilers do not have, for any language: "A source file can also be precompiled into a stored binary form and automatically recompiled when its dependencies change. Whether compiling on the fly or precompiling, the compiler produces optimized machine code, with some optimization across separately compiled library boundaries. The compiler can also be directed to perform whole-program compilation, which does full cross-library optimization and also reduces a program and the libraries upon which it depends to a single binary."
  - sitkack 3y ago
    I am not a big direct Chez Scheme user, so that was news to me. Thank you! There is this tool that apparently makes it easier and creates a single file. https://github.com/rschardt/chez-exe https://github.com/rschardt/chez-exe

Tangential: if we're talking Lisp and native code speed, Steel Bank Common Lisp (by default) compiles everything to machine code. [0] https://sbcl.org https://sbcl.org

ska 3y ago

Compiled lisps have been a thing for nearly as long as lisps have. IIRC the first one was in early 1960s. It's a cultural oddity how strongly people seem to associate them with interpreted code.

Zambyte 3y ago
I think it's because people (rightfully) associate interactive programming with Lisp, and (wrongfully) associate interpreting with interactive programing, since loading compiled machine code into a running program is foreign to most people who do not use Lisp.

sitkack 3y ago

(not (eq? 'lisp 'scheme)) If you want native code from Scheme, using Gambit.

JasonFruit 3y ago
From the title: "Lisp with native code speed".
- binary132 3y ago
  >chez scheme
  - kaashif 3y ago
    What does this comment mean? Can you elaborate?
    - binary132 3y ago
      Article is about a Scheme implementation. User didn't want to talk about Common Lisp. Other user pointed out that the title of the article says "lisp". My comment points out that the article also says "scheme". Scheme is a Lisp. Not all Lisps are Scheme. Hope that clarifies.
jll29 3y ago
Chez Scheme outperforms Gambit in the benchmarks cited in a commment above. Chez Scheme has a few interesting features that most compilers do not have, for any language: "A source file can also be precompiled into a stored binary form and automatically recompiled when its dependencies change. Whether compiling on the fly or precompiling, the compiler produces optimized machine code, with some optimization across separately compiled library boundaries. The compiler can also be directed to perform whole-program compilation, which does full cross-library optimization and also reduces a program and the libraries upon which it depends to a single binary."
- sitkack 3y ago
  I am not a big direct Chez Scheme user, so that was news to me. Thank you! There is this tool that apparently makes it easier and creates a single file. https://github.com/rschardt/chez-exe https://github.com/rschardt/chez-exe