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#4 pinned is hacker news!!! So clearly big crossover between HN fans and kagi. 8,629 Members. Top Blocked (from most blocked): pinterest.com/.co.uk/.ca/.de/.f

#4 pinned is hacker news!!! So clearly big crossover between HN fans and kagi. 8,629 Members. Top Blocked (from most blocked): pinterest.com/.co.uk/.ca/.de/.fr/.com.au/.es facebook.com foxnews.com tiktok.com quora.com w3schools.com breitbart.com dailymail.co.uk appsloveworld.com instagram.com githubplus.com geeksforgeeks.org libhunt.com twitter.com msn.com healthline.com solveforum.com 9to5answer.com alternativeto.net giters.com wikihow.com nypost.com codegrepper.com issuehint.com cnn.com educba.com coder.social linkedin.com geekrepos.com kknews.cc bleepcoder.com amazon.com programcreek.com forbes.com newbedev.com drivereasy.com medium.com lightrun.com you.com reddit.com webmd.com blog.csdn.net nytimes.com washingtonpost.com

shermozle 3y ago
Oh man I blocked all these when I first started using it and haven't even thought of it since. Now I realise how much Pinterest and W3Schools not showing up has improved my life!
- HanClinto 3y ago
  I've generally really loved w3schools for their tutorials -- I've been using them to teach my kids web programming and whatnot recently and generally been happy with them. Is there something I'm missing about it? Maybe it's because we have really good ad-blockers running, but their content seems fine and (generally?) not terribly "lifted" from other sites (I.E., just SEO spam). Is there a replacement for them that fills the same gap for web reference / tutorials?
  - belltaco 3y ago
    I think people have been using MDN. This has some of the context https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.co... But looks like w3schools has cleaned up their act in the past decade.
    - wyclif 3y ago
      They have. It's a lot better now than when they started out. They have incrementally been improving it. The reason why it gets pushed down is because a lot of people have a natural distate for the ads and the fact that it's a content farm. But if you have good ad blocking I don't see the harm in using it as long as you understand what it is.
      - jacurtis 3y ago
        I think its the same as it has always been. They went from being bad compared to everything else to now feeling good compared to everything else. Basically they stayed static and the rest of the internet worsened around them and our perspectives are now skewed. What used to feel like a spammy content farm is actually not that bad now that we have seen real spammy content farms, like the SO clones that just take SO posts, rip out important css elements so it is harder to read, and slap as many ads as the ad networks allow them around it and then throw up exit intent banners and crypto-mining javascript. Now just a normal content farm feels like a breath of fresh air when we deal with those garbage sites as alternatives.
        rchaud 3y ago
        It's not a content farm. That would be sites like dev.to that put out tons of unstructured blog posts from all and sundry. W3schools is refreshing specifically because its content is all tutorial-based, they aren't any paywalls or dickbars insisting you subscribe by email.
        int_19h 3y ago
        Way back when they first started, they used to have content that was outright blatantly wrong and dangerous if followed. It's definitely much better in that respect now.
        wyclif 3y ago
        This is correct. They haven't been treading water. They have consciously tried hard to edit out the flagrantly incorrect content that used to be on the site.
  - wyclif 3y ago
    I agree with you about w3schools; they've improved a lot since they first started out, and cleaned up a lot of problems. I think it's just fine to use for that purpose. A lot of technologists look down their noses at w3schools and vilify them just because they consider it a content farm.
  - robin_reala 3y ago
    Leaving aside what everyone else said, the thing that rankled has always been a false claim of association with W3 in their domain name.
    - rambambram 3y ago
      With W3C, you mean? Because as far as I know W3 stands just for world wide web.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        In theory it does, but pretty much nobody uses it in this manner except for W3C, so that is the association for most people who recognize it in the first place.
macNchz 3y ago
Interesting to see reddit on the block list, I have issues with the way they’ve been operating but I do often find myself explicitly adding site:reddit.com to google searches, since it seems like one of few places online where there is still non-sponsored conversation about diverse topics. RIP old-school forums.
- kunwon1 3y ago
  I'm doing the same thing, but specifically for reviews/recommendations. I can't remember the last time I had even an inkling of trust for a review published on a website. Reddit is basically the only source I have for potentially trustworthy opinions about products
  - n42 3y ago
    IMO, this is no longer the case. Basically any new thread is getting astroturfed by marketing teams, and it seems like Reddit started doing SEO to promote newer threads, so the days of reliable reddit reviews seem to be over
    - shyn3 3y ago
      Definitely true. Marketing teams at multiple roles paid third parties to advertise on Reddit. Even tongue in cheek comments about incidents are marketing.
    - yunwal 3y ago
      Subreddits that are about buying things (/r/buyitforlife, /r/frugalmalefashion) are done. Same with any askreddit thread that's like "What's a product for under $x that changed your life" or something like that. I still find /r/cooking gives good recommendations, despite the fact that the world of recipes is filled with spam and low quality content. Maybe the unit economics of astroturfing just don't work out for it.
- wyclif 3y ago
  Note that Reddit is also on the Kagi promoted leaderboard. It seems that Reddit represents a paradox in that way.
dredmorbius 3y ago
I'm ... surprised and have mixed emotions that though msn.com is listed, no Yahoo domains make any of the blocked / raised / lowered / pinned lists. I'm reading that as a sign of total irrelevance.

shermozle 3y ago

Oh man I blocked all these when I first started using it and haven't even thought of it since. Now I realise how much Pinterest and W3Schools not showing up has improved my life!

HanClinto 3y ago
I've generally really loved w3schools for their tutorials -- I've been using them to teach my kids web programming and whatnot recently and generally been happy with them. Is there something I'm missing about it? Maybe it's because we have really good ad-blockers running, but their content seems fine and (generally?) not terribly "lifted" from other sites (I.E., just SEO spam). Is there a replacement for them that fills the same gap for web reference / tutorials?
- belltaco 3y ago
  I think people have been using MDN. This has some of the context https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20110412103745/http://w3fools.co... But looks like w3schools has cleaned up their act in the past decade.
  - wyclif 3y ago
    They have. It's a lot better now than when they started out. They have incrementally been improving it. The reason why it gets pushed down is because a lot of people have a natural distate for the ads and the fact that it's a content farm. But if you have good ad blocking I don't see the harm in using it as long as you understand what it is.
    - jacurtis 3y ago
      I think its the same as it has always been. They went from being bad compared to everything else to now feeling good compared to everything else. Basically they stayed static and the rest of the internet worsened around them and our perspectives are now skewed. What used to feel like a spammy content farm is actually not that bad now that we have seen real spammy content farms, like the SO clones that just take SO posts, rip out important css elements so it is harder to read, and slap as many ads as the ad networks allow them around it and then throw up exit intent banners and crypto-mining javascript. Now just a normal content farm feels like a breath of fresh air when we deal with those garbage sites as alternatives.
      - rchaud 3y ago
        It's not a content farm. That would be sites like dev.to that put out tons of unstructured blog posts from all and sundry. W3schools is refreshing specifically because its content is all tutorial-based, they aren't any paywalls or dickbars insisting you subscribe by email.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        Way back when they first started, they used to have content that was outright blatantly wrong and dangerous if followed. It's definitely much better in that respect now.
        wyclif 3y ago
        This is correct. They haven't been treading water. They have consciously tried hard to edit out the flagrantly incorrect content that used to be on the site.
- wyclif 3y ago
  I agree with you about w3schools; they've improved a lot since they first started out, and cleaned up a lot of problems. I think it's just fine to use for that purpose. A lot of technologists look down their noses at w3schools and vilify them just because they consider it a content farm.
- robin_reala 3y ago
  Leaving aside what everyone else said, the thing that rankled has always been a false claim of association with W3 in their domain name.
  - rambambram 3y ago
    With W3C, you mean? Because as far as I know W3 stands just for world wide web.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      In theory it does, but pretty much nobody uses it in this manner except for W3C, so that is the association for most people who recognize it in the first place.

macNchz 3y ago

Interesting to see reddit on the block list, I have issues with the way they’ve been operating but I do often find myself explicitly adding site:reddit.com to google searches, since it seems like one of few places online where there is still non-sponsored conversation about diverse topics. RIP old-school forums.

kunwon1 3y ago
I'm doing the same thing, but specifically for reviews/recommendations. I can't remember the last time I had even an inkling of trust for a review published on a website. Reddit is basically the only source I have for potentially trustworthy opinions about products
- n42 3y ago
  IMO, this is no longer the case. Basically any new thread is getting astroturfed by marketing teams, and it seems like Reddit started doing SEO to promote newer threads, so the days of reliable reddit reviews seem to be over
  - shyn3 3y ago
    Definitely true. Marketing teams at multiple roles paid third parties to advertise on Reddit. Even tongue in cheek comments about incidents are marketing.
  - yunwal 3y ago
    Subreddits that are about buying things (/r/buyitforlife, /r/frugalmalefashion) are done. Same with any askreddit thread that's like "What's a product for under $x that changed your life" or something like that. I still find /r/cooking gives good recommendations, despite the fact that the world of recipes is filled with spam and low quality content. Maybe the unit economics of astroturfing just don't work out for it.
wyclif 3y ago
Note that Reddit is also on the Kagi promoted leaderboard. It seems that Reddit represents a paradox in that way.

dredmorbius 3y ago

I'm ... surprised and have mixed emotions that though msn.com is listed, no Yahoo domains make any of the blocked / raised / lowered / pinned lists. I'm reading that as a sign of total irrelevance.