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This just doesn’t line up with my experience whatsoever. For my friends on the left it’s a common topic, and I see it discussed in left leaning publications all
by tomtheelder 3y ago
This just doesn’t line up with my experience whatsoever. For my friends on the left it’s a common topic, and I see it discussed in left leaning publications all the time.
I wonder when I see these characterizations of the left if they are coming from social media. I’m not on any social media aside from this site I guess, so I’m not sure if that’s what’s going on. The folks on the left that I interact with in real life are definitely a very big tent group.
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoWhat you're seeing is the support amongst your bros. That's great. That doesn't equate to discussion on 'the left'. You don't see it being discussed much in books, podcasts, blog posts, documentaries etc, except on the right.
- tomtheelder 3y agoBut I see it discussed in left leaning media all the time. Topics like male suicide rates, loneliness, and social pressure against showing emotion come up over and over again.
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoInteresting, where do you see this discussed? I sub to r/bropill, they're a very positive men's support sub on reddit.
- orwin 3y agoJust saw a reddit post about some 'Vaush' youtuber talking about the issue, maybe you should look into him?
- nvm0n2 3y agoBut the diagnosis of what causes those ills will be some variant of "men just suck and bring it on themselves, how can we help them be more like women?" What people mean here is talking about problems imposed on men by society and how to fix that, not discussion that merely boils down to repeating feminist talking points. For example, one issue affecting men is the way they are vulnerable to immediate and vicious punishment if any woman anywhere makes allegations regardless of whether they are substantiated or even eventually proven false. Try bringing that up with your friends and see what happens.