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It would not surprise me to find that in 30 years or so a new category of harm is codified into law which amounts to official and social condemnation of behavio
by ChainOfFools 3y ago
It would not surprise me to find that in 30 years or so a new category of harm is codified into law which amounts to official and social condemnation of behavior that abuses the freedom of a free society. Or to put another way, behavior that pathologically elevates personal or individual freedom ahead of the net freedom of the society that forms an indiv9dual's supporting environment.
Particularly such behavior that in order to reduce the immediate harms it causes, would require reducing the freedom of society as a whole. A simple example, rather less
sensational or revolting than pseudo-nude photos of schoolchildren but far more pervasive and destructive, and similarly immune to attack under today's laws and circumstances, would be noise pollution ordinances, which are seldom enforced but frequently abused. Such abuses degrade the environment in innumerable, but sub-actionable ways for hundreds of people so that one person can have something they want, ie straight pipes on a harley/whatever being gunned through residential streets at 2:00 a.m. in the morning.
I feel like this class of abusive behavior is on the rise (at least, in Spain as well as my country) and will cause a much more catastrophic breakdown of a free society if it remains unchecked, but that we have no means of curbing under our current frameworks without compromising those frameworks themselves. At the same time I'm really tired of this posture of conceding to assholes on the grounds that tjey effectively hold "free society" hostage as a shield for their individual need for validation and/or financial gain.
- __turbobrew__ 3y agoFor me personally I think it is less that this behaviour is on the rise, but that I’m getting older and it bothers me more. After hearing some stories about what it was like during my grandparents lifetime there were no bylaw officers or noise ordinances or pollution control, so I’m not convinced that we have it worse than a few generations ago.
- palata 3y ago> so I’m not convinced that we have it worse than a few generations ago. If it's about comparing generations, it's quite likely that your grandparents (or at least their parents) won't be here to suffer the consequences of modern society (I mean climate change and biodiversity loss), but you will. So yeah, I'm not convinced that we have it better than a few generations ago.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoI don't think it will take 30 years. The problem is that it will be very hard to prosecute, it will have to concern possession rather than distribution (since you don't need to distribute the artifacts, you just need to be able to generate them).