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> there isn't really an efficient way to supply dissenting news to Chinese people in Chinese en masse What exactly would you like to tell them? A large percent

> there isn't really an efficient way to supply dissenting news to Chinese people in Chinese en masse What exactly would you like to tell them? A large percentage of Chinese have access to VPNs, travel to other countries, and talk with people from all over. The trade offs that Americans have implicitly made, accepting high street crime in exchange for “freedom” won’t universally be accepted as better. They are a cultural choice. The average Chinese isn’t eating grass or cowering from Big Brother. Economically, they’re doing significantly better than their parents. The red hot post-war economy Americans reminisce about? Chinese have been living that reality for 40 years now. In America we have recessions once a decade, but up until this year the average Chinese never even knew what a recession was.

nradov 3y ago
Americans have made no such trade off. The amount of street crime is quite low in most of the country. It's only a noticeable problem in a few large cities that have been wrecked by failed progressive policies. My city has literally zero murders most years, and those few that have occurred have been private disputes rather than street crime.
- janalsncm 3y ago
  Those “failed progressive policies” are American policies made by American politicians. The United States has very high crime rates compared to China. If you don’t trust Chinese crime stats, check Singapore’s which are even lower. Singapore is a city bigger than LA but with low crime rates due to cameras and police that know how to do their jobs. Singapore also gives the death penalty for peddling drugs which is a lesson conservative states might have directed at the Sackler family rather than giving them a free pass. Shootings are common in the U.S. and American politicians have accepted this reality. Even after children are slaughtered, politicians do nothing. Those children pay for American “freedom” with their lives. Other cultures choose to put children first.
inglor_cz 3y ago
" Economically, they’re doing significantly better than their parents." Are you sure about the really young cohorts? AFAIK youth unemployment in China is so bad that they stopped releasing the stats.
- janalsncm 3y ago
  Yes. Even taking the last two years into account, China has gone from a gdp/capita of under $1000 to over $12000 in just 20 years. Thats equivalent to jumping from an Ethiopian economy to a Russian one in the span of a generation. China has poured more concrete since 2000 than the rest of the world combined prior to 2000.

nradov 3y ago

Americans have made no such trade off. The amount of street crime is quite low in most of the country. It's only a noticeable problem in a few large cities that have been wrecked by failed progressive policies. My city has literally zero murders most years, and those few that have occurred have been private disputes rather than street crime.

janalsncm 3y ago
Those “failed progressive policies” are American policies made by American politicians. The United States has very high crime rates compared to China. If you don’t trust Chinese crime stats, check Singapore’s which are even lower. Singapore is a city bigger than LA but with low crime rates due to cameras and police that know how to do their jobs. Singapore also gives the death penalty for peddling drugs which is a lesson conservative states might have directed at the Sackler family rather than giving them a free pass. Shootings are common in the U.S. and American politicians have accepted this reality. Even after children are slaughtered, politicians do nothing. Those children pay for American “freedom” with their lives. Other cultures choose to put children first.

inglor_cz 3y ago

" Economically, they’re doing significantly better than their parents." Are you sure about the really young cohorts? AFAIK youth unemployment in China is so bad that they stopped releasing the stats.

janalsncm 3y ago
Yes. Even taking the last two years into account, China has gone from a gdp/capita of under $1000 to over $12000 in just 20 years. Thats equivalent to jumping from an Ethiopian economy to a Russian one in the span of a generation. China has poured more concrete since 2000 than the rest of the world combined prior to 2000.