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If you're going to categorise senses into the usual five, which is what seems to be going on here, then hot, cold and pain are going to count as "touch" too. Th
by quietbritishjim 3y ago
If you're going to categorise senses into the usual five, which is what seems to be going on here, then hot, cold and pain are going to count as "touch" too. Those aren't about measuring motion so this explanation doesn't seem to work.
- tsimionescu 3y agoHot and cold do measure motion, if we want to be very technical (since temperature is just a measure of the average momentum of molecules). Pain should probably be considered a separate sense indeed, though it can also be argued it is something different from the senses themselves, since it is fully internal, it doesn't reveal some fact about the outside world.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoTrigger warning: description of medical procedure. Yes pain seems more like the interpretation of sense data, like if something sounds nice or tastes good? When I had an operation under local anesthetic I still felt the knife cutting into me, but was able to interpret it as not painful? This is how opiates (for pain relief) have been described to me -- still allowing you to feel the sensations but allowing you to not 'feel' the pain. Perhaps seeing with human biology knowledge can tell me why this is wrong!?
- memen 3y ago> Although in some cultures five human senses were traditionally identified as such (namely sight, smell, touch, taste, and hearing), it is now recognized that there are many more. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense
- quietbritishjim 3y agoYes of course (e.g. orientation from inner ear; proprioception; and others). But the context of the conversation was about the traditional understanding of "touch". I was trying to avoid the commenter I was replying to backing out of their point saying that they considered hot/cold and pain to be separate senses.