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Fentanyl needs to be made legal and sold at grocery stores. In 2-for-1 packs, fentanly+narcan, at affordable prices. Even better, subsidized prices for poor peo
by drug-freedom 3y ago
Fentanyl needs to be made legal and sold at grocery stores. In 2-for-1 packs, fentanly+narcan, at affordable prices. Even better, subsidized prices for poor people which can't afford it.
That would solve the fentanyl problem, which is solely due to it being illegal and impure.
More generally, all drugs need to be decriminalized and sold at affordable prices and pharma-grade quality.
- slaw 3y agoI think it is the opposite. People are looking for fentanyl free drugs.
- drug-freedom 3y agoI don't disagree. At your local grocery store you should have a drug aisle with cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, MDMA, mushrooms, all pharma-grade quality. So you would know exactly what you are getting.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoMaybe we could also have Futurama style euthanasia booths just outside the entrance?
- vuln 3y agoNot a booth per se but you sign a few papers and you can be suicided within 30 days in Canada.
- hypertele-Xii 3y agoMedical assistance in dying (MAID) The only difference to 'Medical assistance in addiction', is the former is much cheaper as the person won't need any help, ever.
- quonn 3y agoNot exactly. But generally making less harmful drugs legal would help - generally the more prohibition the stronger the drugs become.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 3y agoMaking all drugs legal to use makes sense to me. Criminalizing users only makes things worse. But make it illegal to sell, transport, possess in large quantities etc.
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoHow are drug users going to know what they are buying if they are illegal to sell? Dealers are putting fentanyl in cocaine nowadays. It wouldn’t surprise me if a large number of fentanyl overdoses were by people who had no idea they were taking fentanyl at all.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 3y agoDecriminalizing drug use is intended to solve a different problem - that being throwing people in jail for being addicts is bad in a number of ways and consequences. Making all drugs legal and available (with quality assurance) will (at least help) solve the problem you are talking about, but will at the same time create whole new problems that more and easier access to drugs will mean more people try and use them and then an increase in lives destroyed through addiction (and related consequences). My opinion is that would be worse.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoDecriminalizing use basically decriminalizes selling as far as I can tell here in the northwest. Police and prosecutors can no longer threaten users with legal action to give up their dealers, and since buying is now low risk, dealing also becomes lower risk. I’ve seen people on the street looking for drugs and find them on my morning walks (they are pretty vocal when asking, and dealers aren’t shy about replying).
- rwmj 3y agoBetter to allow doctors to prescribe heroin maintenance. In fact this was tried in the UK back in the 1980s (and earlier) and is generally regarded as a success: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin-assisted_treatment
- roflc0ptic 3y agoI used to share a similar position until I realized: drugs are bad, actually, and there should be substantial friction in making them available to people. Disincentivizing drug consumption is a good thing. The war on drugs obviously leads to some absurdities - e.g. drug cartels, unnecessary incarceration - and I much prefer the Portuguese model. But making fentanyl in particular available in the grocery store would be bad; some substantial number of people would die who wouldn't have died otherwise. Some substantial number of people who would never have tried fentanyl would give it a try. Some sensible balance needs to be struck between a free society and preventing people from e.g. leaving live landmines in their parking lots. Doing things which inevitably kill people/mess up their lives without active violence is still bad, and should be heavily discouraged.
- bloppe 3y agoEven the Portuguese model has had mixed success at best
- devin 3y agoMy understanding is that the Portuguese model was going along pretty well until fentanyl came along.
- roflc0ptic 3y agoI shared this understanding. I'd be curious to hear where GP's understanding differs.
- danielbln 3y agoWhat led to your realization that "drugs are bad", and does that include all external consciousness altering substances? (caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, THC, and so on).
- nerdponx 3y agoCan't speak for somebody else's post, but addiction ruins lives, not only yours but also possibly the people around you, and leads people to other criminal behavior. It's perfectly legal to obtain and use alcohol for example, but alcoholism is an insidious evil disease.
- tgv 3y ago> all drugs need to be decriminalized and sold at affordable prices and pharma-grade quality. Sure, fuck the 20%-30% of the population who can't control their addiction and ruin the country in the process.
- vuln 3y agoMakes it a lot easier to increase the government dependency pool by 20-30%.