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Today's productivity crisis is readily apparent to anyone who plays mmo phone games. There are always people on at work. The crisis was there before that. I've

Today's productivity crisis is readily apparent to anyone who plays mmo phone games. There are always people on at work. The crisis was there before that. I've seen many people do nothing work related for hours on end. It's a lot easier to hide it with instant messengers and browsers. And finally, apparently one of the reasons construction has seen no net productivity gains is because regulations have grown more complex and expensive. I bet that's true of many industries...

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MattGaiser 3y ago
> And finally, apparently one of the reasons construction has seen no net productivity gains is because regulations have grown more complex and expensive. I bet that's true of many industries... Also, construction appears to heavily involve manual labour. I am prepared to be wrong, but are there robots on construction sites yet or are humans still manually stacking brick walls?
- sambazi 3y ago
  haven't seen any bricking robots, yet. thou ime construction has moved to prefabricated elements (import wall from factory) in order to cope with less skilled workers and higher labor costs while retaining some margin.
  - defrost 3y ago
    We've got a couple here in Western Australia building houses (at least two seperate designs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IQB5S1N5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IQB5S1N5I (2019 - 4 years ago) Mind you we (Uni of West Australia) built a sheep shearing robot back in 1980 and use robot trucks | trains | excavators to mine ~ 800 million tonnes of iron ore per year.
- b0in 3y ago
  looking around online, yes there are robots. very very expensive looking robots like the Hadrian X and SAM100, both for stacking brick walls. but who is building full buildings with 100% brick these days*? we probably got more productivity gains when we stopped digging dirt manually. My guess is that any tech like this coming out now is at the far right end of an S curve and the real gains are to be made politically and socially, though i doubt it's a regulation issue like the quote. *turns out its australians.
fallingknife 3y ago
I do feel like the growth of bureaucracy is a massive drag on productivity.
rcbdev 3y ago
A friend of mine put it in terms of "boreout" and "burnout" jobs - I, for one, actually work all my hours and then some while he seems to only use 30-50% of his time on actual work. I would like a boreout job.
- Pooge 3y ago
  Trust me you'd love to have one until you actually do get one. Being imprisoned 40h/week with literally nothing to do and - depending on your work culture - being forbidden to do anything unrelated to work is by far one of the worst things for your mental health. It's actually a known tactic to force workers to quit.
  - sambazi 3y ago
    > It's actually a known tactic to force workers to quit. whoever came up with that idea ... srsly thou, while this scenario certainly can be soul crushing, i think that this is not the case for everyone or even most.

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MattGaiser 3y ago

> And finally, apparently one of the reasons construction has seen no net productivity gains is because regulations have grown more complex and expensive. I bet that's true of many industries... Also, construction appears to heavily involve manual labour. I am prepared to be wrong, but are there robots on construction sites yet or are humans still manually stacking brick walls?

sambazi 3y ago
haven't seen any bricking robots, yet. thou ime construction has moved to prefabricated elements (import wall from factory) in order to cope with less skilled workers and higher labor costs while retaining some margin.
- defrost 3y ago
  We've got a couple here in Western Australia building houses (at least two seperate designs): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IQB5S1N5I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6IQB5S1N5I (2019 - 4 years ago) Mind you we (Uni of West Australia) built a sheep shearing robot back in 1980 and use robot trucks | trains | excavators to mine ~ 800 million tonnes of iron ore per year.
b0in 3y ago
looking around online, yes there are robots. very very expensive looking robots like the Hadrian X and SAM100, both for stacking brick walls. but who is building full buildings with 100% brick these days*? we probably got more productivity gains when we stopped digging dirt manually. My guess is that any tech like this coming out now is at the far right end of an S curve and the real gains are to be made politically and socially, though i doubt it's a regulation issue like the quote. *turns out its australians.

fallingknife 3y ago

I do feel like the growth of bureaucracy is a massive drag on productivity.

rcbdev 3y ago

A friend of mine put it in terms of "boreout" and "burnout" jobs - I, for one, actually work all my hours and then some while he seems to only use 30-50% of his time on actual work. I would like a boreout job.

Pooge 3y ago
Trust me you'd love to have one until you actually do get one. Being imprisoned 40h/week with literally nothing to do and - depending on your work culture - being forbidden to do anything unrelated to work is by far one of the worst things for your mental health. It's actually a known tactic to force workers to quit.
- sambazi 3y ago
  > It's actually a known tactic to force workers to quit. whoever came up with that idea ... srsly thou, while this scenario certainly can be soul crushing, i think that this is not the case for everyone or even most.