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In the near or medium future they will screen/crispr the germline so no one will ever have it. Yes it's eugenics but it will happen. Edit: the ones downvoting
by ftxbro 3y ago
In the near or medium future they will screen/crispr the germline so no one will ever have it. Yes it's eugenics but it will happen.
Edit: the ones downvoting me is it because you don't think it will happen, or because you don't think it's eugenics, or you think it's rude to talk about it?
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- the__alchemist 3y agoConcur. I think this is likely to be controversial, and become an increasingly popular news topic and political wedge. (Maybe in the next few decades?) It seems that we can eliminate some genetic diseases through a combination of screening and embryo selection.
- thedailymail 3y agoThis has already happened with Down syndrome in Denmark. https://cphpost.dk/2020-08-21/news/record-low-numbers-of-children-with-down-syndrome-being-born/ https://cphpost.dk/2020-08-21/news/record-low-numbers-of-chi...
- rcme 3y agoIn the US, when we had a kid, we had genetic screens done for over a hundred genetic diseases. The baby’s DNA was also tested for Down’s.
- karaokeyoga 3y agoSame here, for our second child, since her mother had moved into a higher-risk age category by then. This was in San Francisco in 2005.
- Scoundreller 3y agoCan do a blood test on the mother for Down's. Enough baby DNA leaks out into her bloodstream and you can see if the chromosome ratios are the slightest bit off or not.
- ftxbro 3y agoi wonder does the mother get any phenotype if she has a lot of dna in her bloodstream that has too many chromosomes
- fnordpiglet 3y agoIt’s a shame as down people are the best of us.
- akoboldfrying 3y agoI know what you're getting at, and it's a very difficult issue, but if you are advocating against screening out Down Syndrome then I disagree. A question worth asking yourself is: If I had the power to give myself, or someone I love and want the best for, Down Syndrome, would I do so? Especially consider the case where the person is young enough not to remember life before the change.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoI wouldn’t any more than I wouldn’t take away down from someone who was down. I’m not advocating about anything though, I am just stating the world is better with down people in it than without them. They are truly beautiful humans.
- knicholes 3y agoI was nearly strangled to death by someone with Down's. That one didn't seem all too beautiful to me.
- at_a_remove 3y agoYou get the filtered ones. A close friend of mine worked in a "home" for people who had to fit all three of "adult," "violently disturbed," and "diminished mental capacity." They were not beautiful humans. While all types were present, the Down's crowd was just as nasty as the rest. These folks get tucked away and the populace gets the high-functioning "nice" ones. Turns out that they're just as lousy as the rest of us.
- lazide 3y agoWould you intentionally give a fetus Down’s?
- tux3 3y agoScreening is already very common. Offspring with unwanted genes can be screened off if mom is willing to abort (and if not, you don't typically bother with the screening) I learned that from a medical lesson, it's just standard of care today
- Scoundreller 3y agoIf you're doing IVF, many (all?) of these can be screened pre-implantation.
- michaelsbradley 3y agoIt's definitely eugenics and societies that hope to be just and grounded on the dignity and sanctity of human life will make it illegal.
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- elboru 3y agoTruly unbelievable and sad how quickly a dechristianized society adopted this practices with no issues.
- car 3y agoCarrier screening is pretty much standard today. This way the risk of two carriers having an affected child can be avoided. How is this eugenics? Does not make any sense.
- slibhb 3y agoWhat you're describing is clearly eugenics, just a benign form.
- car 3y agoBenign eugenics? I can't follow...
- DoreenMichele 3y agoIt's common for people to choose to try to not have a child with a serious genetic disorder.
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- ftxbro 3y agotfw a connotation is more powerful than a definition
- justrealist 3y agoCarrier screening covers a really small fraction of pathogenic variants. It'll catch really catastrophic stuff but there's an enormous number of mixed-penetrance/AD variants that people pass on because they aren't lethal. (plus, let's be real, most prospective parents don't carrier screen. only ones about to undergo IVF where PGT-M is sometimes an option.)
- User23 3y agoEugenics is definitely a loaded term. It denotes good genes and of course everyone wants that. On the other hand it connotes a bunch of ugliness like culling persons with undesirable traits. Everyone practices eugenics in the denotational sense after all. Nobody thinks “hey, I want to have children with this person that I think will give them bad genes” Incidentally one of the major selling points of abortion is culling persons with genetic defects, which is absolutely eugenic.