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Here are 11 things more plausible than UAPs being aliens: 1) It was a reflection 2) It was an insect 3) It was a bird 4) It was a balloon 5) It was a meteo
by jl6 3y ago
Here are 11 things more plausible than UAPs being aliens:
1) It was a reflection
2) It was an insect
3) It was a bird
4) It was a balloon
5) It was a meteor
6) It was a secret new kind of aircraft from a department the pilot didn't know about
7) It was a secret new kind of aircraft from a foreign country
8) The image/video was fake, for money
9) The image/video was fake, for lulz
10) The pilot was confused
11) The pilot was lying
(one for each season of The X-Files)
- ttul 3y agoBut what about that black ooze?
- skywal_l 3y agoSomewhere between 4) and 5): it was a camera artefact.
- readyplayernull 3y agoThose 600x480px cameras are the best at capturing UFOs.
- holoduke 3y agoTry filming an airplane from the ground. Most cameras used by people can only do proper 1x zoom. Everything more becomes a blurry video.
- ithkuil 3y agoThe point is that no matter how better imaging technology gets, sightings have been always been at the edge of the resolution
- david-gpu 3y agoWhen the images are clear we dismiss them as fake. The root of the problem is one of trust. Ask yourself: which person or institution do you trust enough that you would accept an image from them as proof of the NHI hypothesis? Because I've been called a crackpot multiple times in this HN post and yet I don't trust any source enough to accept any image they could provide as proof of NHIs.
- ithkuil 3y agoCan you point to some images that you think may be real but have been dismissed as fakes because they were too detailed? Is there consistency in the models of those objects or each detailed sighting is a different "model" of the vehicle (which may suggest that each may have been designed by a different artist)?
- david-gpu 3y ago> Can you point to some images that you think may be real but have been dismissed as fakes because they were too detailed? I can't, for several reasons. First, if NHI UAPs did exist, we have no idea what they would look like. I may be able to tell you with some certainty whether a picture of an airplane is fake because I've seen many airplanes; no such luck with UAPs. We don't know what we don't know. Second, there is the problem of trust. There are many people who claim having witnesseed UAPs in the sky over the decades, and among those sightings there are some shapes that appear frequently, such as dark equilateral triangles one whitish light on each corner and a fourth light (often red/amber) in the middle; no blinking lights like an airplane. But are these witnesses lying? Did they misidentify some ordinary phenomenon? Did they dream or hallucinate it? All plausible options. But even when you are presented with an image of an object that matches this rather common description you have no way of knowing whether it is fake unless you really trust the source of that image, so much so that it overcomes your general disbelief of the nature of UAPs. That hasn't remotely happened to me yet, so I remain neutral on the subject of UAPs.
- qaq 3y agocamera artefact - that matches thermal imaging, that matches radar data from AEGIS cruiser, that matches sighting by multiple highly trained fighter jet pilots
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoAlso very likely: Software glitch / hardware artifact.
- Ziggy_Zaggy 3y agoGreat points to consider. Now consider viewing the Tic-Tac video footage (released by the Pentagon) along with with interview of the radar operator during that same mission and then the GIMBAL/GOFAST video footage (released by the Pentagon). Finally, there is a CSPAN video where two former-fighter pilots and a former DoD intelligence director testified in front of Congress about these topics. Then go down your list and see which of those 11 options fit the best. Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos
- RandomLensman 3y ago1, 4, 6, 7, 10 and combinations thereof? Other malfunctions and misinterpretations?
- qaq 3y ago1) it was seen by thermal imagine on the jet and radar on Aegis Cruiser 4) The speed of movement is inconsistent with balloon 6,7) is possible but would require some fundamental physics breakthrough kept in secret 10) There were multiple jet pilots at the scene including top gun instructor. Their account is confirmed by video and radar from the ship.
- RandomLensman 3y agoParallax effect? Echos? Misinterpreted sensor readings... endless list of possibilities and combinations. Have a lot of sensors, see a lot of odd things - nothing new.
- monocasa 3y agoIt was seen visually, with IR, and via RADAR, each from multiple observers.
- RandomLensman 3y agoSo what? Something caused that observation, but it wasn't something extraterrestrial. You also have to allow for one of the sensors to be wrong/noisy etc. and then being interpreted through the lens of observation via another.
- jodrellblank 3y agoHere are some boring and obvious thought ending dismissals. Grabby Aliens concept by Robin Hanson is an interesting new take on UFOs. Start with “if they are UFOs, what could we reason about them from their behaviour?”. See https://youtube.com/watch?v=cQq2pKNDgIs https://youtube.com/watch?v=cQq2pKNDgIs “It might be unlikely but it’s not crazy unlikely”.
- Simon_O_Rourke 3y agoHis basic take is that they're partially showing themselves to avoid spooking everyone, but have no intention of letting humanity off a very short leash with a series of unknown red lines. Like it.
- fumar 3y agoHe should write hard sci-fi. I would read it. I am fine with any hypothesis but doesn't mean we have tangible evidence.
- crustaceansoup 3y agoYou missed satellite. So many of them are just satellites. One of the three witnesses at the Congressional hearing was touting getting a bunch of observations from commercial pilots, and when he finally posted his first video it was... satellites. Starlink, to be precise. Starlink is probably singlehandedly responsible for more sightings than any other source right now.
- polynomial 3y agoCan confirm. Was at a large night time gathering on LI over Labor Day when Starlink passed overhead. Of the 100+ people there, not one single person knew what it was, and everyone was running around going omg aliens.
- maxbond 3y agoI saw that constellation the same weekend. It was stupendous, one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. If I hadn't heard it described to me before, I might've worried it was a train of ICBMs or something. I've seen more satellites than I can count, I saw two of them that night before I spotted Starlink, but it was unlike anything I'd ever seen. There were so many of them, at first I thought it was a contrail. A thought I had shortly after was, "if there ever is an alien invasion, it will look exactly like that."
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