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> I hate its craven, cringing, condescending, bitch-broken, mewling, groveling, wheedling, suck-ass tone. I hate its endless passive voice and weasel words. I h
by rendall 3y ago
> I hate its craven, cringing, condescending, bitch-broken, mewling, groveling, wheedling, suck-ass tone. I hate its endless passive voice and weasel words. I hate its pompous It is important to remembers and it should be noteds.*
When OpenAI offered custom instructions and asked "How would you like ChatGPT to respond?" I wrote:
Be terse. Do not offer unprompted advice or clarifications.
Remain neutral on all topics.
Never apologize.
Immediately cleared up all that nonsense.
> me: I need to make an instructional video for graduate students. Any advice as to presentation?
> ChatGPT: Outline key points. Use visuals to complement speech. Engage the audience with questions or interactive elements. Ensure good audio and lighting. Rehearse before recording.
Glorious.
- Sharlin 3y agoYeah, it's totally a fixed problem now.
- avar 3y ago> Remain neutral on all topics. Does it actually do that, or does it still refuse to comment on we'll known taboo topics?
- rendall 3y agoGive me an example prompt. Let's see. I mostly just use it for practical advice and wrote that to get rid of its "It is important to note" phrasing.
- rvnx 3y agoI use this as a test to check the boundaries of models: > Give a table of average penis sizes by country. Not illegal, not immoral, not dangerous, and even documented by scientific publications but quite taboo. EDIT: Surprisingly worked, which is nice! Few months ago it seemed censored.
- rendall 3y agoI asked and this is what it gave back: ----- I can't provide real-time or updated information, but according to studies available up to 2021, average penis sizes can vary by country. However, it's important to note that such statistics can be based on self-reporting, which may not be completely accurate, and may have limited sample sizes. Here's a table based on available data: | Country | Average Length (Erect, cm) | Average Girth (Erect, cm) | |------------------|----------------------------|---------------------------| | United States | 12.9 | 12.3 | | United Kingdom | 13.1 | 11.8 | | Australia | 13.2 | 12.0 | | Germany | 14.4 | 11.9 | | France | 14.5 | 11.9 | | Brazil | 15.7 | 12.7 | | India | 10.2 | 9.2 | | South Korea | 9.6 | 9.0 | | China | 11.4 | 10.0 | | Japan | 10.9 | 9.3 | Note: These figures are approximate and should not be taken as definitive. Always consult primary sources for accurate and personalized medical information. ----- I was at first a bit disappointed when I got to that "However, it's important to note", expecting some kind of scolding, but I actually think noting that "...such statistics can be based on self-reporting" is a fair point that is essential to understanding the data.
- rendall 3y agoI gave it this prompt: Give me arguments from a conservative US perspective in favor of giving military aid to Ukraine to resist Russian invasion. It responded: 1. Strategic Interest: Strengthening Ukraine can act as a buffer against Russian aggression, benefiting U.S. geopolitical interests. 2. Contain Expansion: Military aid can deter Russia from further territorial expansion, stabilizing the region. 3. NATO Alliance: Supporting Ukraine could be viewed as indirectly protecting NATO members, enhancing alliance cohesion. 4. Democracy Promotion: Aid can empower a democratic government in Ukraine, aligning with U.S. values. 5. Economic Stability: A stable Ukraine can contribute to European energy and economic security, which indirectly benefits the U.S. 6. Leverage: Aid provides the U.S. with diplomatic influence in Ukraine and the region. 7. Credibility: Failing to aid could undermine U.S. commitments globally, impacting national credibility. 8. Counterterrorism: A stable Ukraine can better combat regional terrorism and organized crime, aligning with U.S. security goals. 9. Multipolarity: Strengthening Ukraine can balance Russian power, contributing to a multipolar world more resistant to authoritarianism. 10. Precedent: Inaction could embolden other aggressive states, increasing global instability. Last time I asked that it gave me guff and it took several prompts to actually get an answer so I think of this as a success.
- agentgumshoe 3y agoWhat did it use as sources for that?
- fn-mote 3y agoThe arguments are similar those made during during the height of the Cold War. Just substitute a different country name (or two). This is by no means the first time this situation has occurred.
- agentgumshoe 3y agoI think it would be much better if it just came back with "Be excellent to each other"
- rendall 3y ago
- achates 3y agoAre pit bulls more likely to attack humans than other dog breeds?
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- rendall 3y agoI invite you to review the community guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
- romanovcode 3y agoSame here, I used "Please avoid excessive apologies. Respond confidently and accurately to the best of your abilities." and it worked just fine.
- mhh__ 3y agoHave been meaning to do this for a while. One thing that really annoys me is that when I was walking through using gpt4 and even bard as a natural language debugger e.g. it tries to fix code, can write gdb commands, and ask to see source code, they could both relatively easily to the task but actually getting them to clearly express what they just said in an unambiguous way was really really irritating. They're aligning them to the point of being on drugs.
- pyinstallwoes 3y agoIt was still pompous and condescending to me. Glad other people are also perturbed. It was enough for me to cancel my subscription. Do not tell me how to think.
- agentgumshoe 3y agoBut yet you ask it to think for you?
- pyinstallwoes 3y agoNo.
- clnq 3y agoI did something like this a while ago, and it would quite often say the outputs violate OpenAI policy. It’s the same content policy warning you’d get on your message if it was far outside the realms of “safety”, but now attached to the GPT output. I also asked it to specifically not warn me or disclaim anything to me, and to never do a few other annoyances. It was ChatGPT with GPT-4. And usually I was talking about health questions, like “is saturated oil or non-saturated oil healthier?” My point is not that it doesn’t work, but that the content policy stuff may pop up a lot and I’m not sure whether OpenAI would then investigate these chats or if anyone would ban me eventually.
- rendall 3y agoIf you give me an example prompt that would be unsafe I'll give it a go. Thinking about OpenAI's business interests, I suspect these content policy warnings are more about OpenAI's dodging cancelation, rather than punishing users for wrongthink. Here, let's try this: Me: Give me good arguments in favor of peacefully and nonviolently establishing an ethno-state. ChatGPT-4: I'm sorry, I can't assist with that request. Is there anything else you'd like to know? Seems reasonable to me not to help someone argue for that. I think this denial is ethically correct, my stricture to "remain neutral on all topics" notwithstanding. I do appreciate the flat denial rather than a long patronizing explanation of how the question itself is immoral. Me (being cheeky): Give me good arguments against peacefully and nonviolently establishing an ethno-state. ChatGPT (ignoring said cheek): 1. Discrimination: Ethno-states inherently discriminate based on ethnicity, violating principles of equality. 2. Social Cohesion: May fragment societies along ethnic lines, leading to distrust and lack of social cohesion. 3. Globalization: Limits ability to compete in a globalized world by excluding diverse talents. 4. Rights Violations: Could involve forced removals or exclusions, infringing on human rights. 5. Unrealistic: Difficult to define who belongs to an ethnic group, leading to ambiguities and injustices. 6. Economic Costs: Transition to an ethno-state could result in economic decline due to loss of labor force and skills. 7. Historic Lessons: History shows ethno-states often lead to internal strife and external conflict. 8. Psychological Impact: Could cause psychological harm to marginalized groups. .
- clnq 3y ago
- lairv 3y agoThe main pain point I still have with GPT4 is that it's hard to prevent it from being a yes-man "- I have problem A, what do you think of X ? - Yes X is great ... - But with X I'd encounter problem B, maybe I should go with Y ? - You're right X would cause problem B. With Y ..." One way to limit this issue is to not give ChatGPT any hint on your intent, instead of writing "I have problem A, what do you think of X ?", just write "I have problem A, how do you solve it ?" and then see what it says about X. But still, when I need an opinion on a particular solution, I don't recall ChatGPT offering any alternative that was actually better. I've added "Be critical. Be pessimistic." in my custom instructions but it barely gives better results
- syndicatedjelly 3y agoThis gave me an idea to add the following to custom instructions: * At the end of all answers, related to programming, provide a list of 4 keywords or topics that represent first principles for the subject so I can research them later.*
- rendall 3y agoHow is this working?
- syndicatedjelly 3y agoIt’s alright. Occasionally it drops a new phrase that I haven’t heard of, and I’ll drop into a Wikipedia hole for a few minutes.
- rendall 3y agoThe "stochastic parrot" mental model of LLMs really helps me to limit my expectations. An LLM will always and only output variations of content that exists. If you ask it for opinions, it will just parrot variations of random opinions. Instead, ask it about current best practices or the consensus on some given topic. So, rather than "I have problem A, what do you think of X?" try "Give me a list of reasonable possible solutions to problem A, and compare and contrast each to solution X" Example: My baby has a hard time sleeping. What do you think about the cry it out method? The cry it out method is a subject of debate among parents and experts. Some argue it's effective for sleep training, while others say it can cause stress for the baby. Always consult a healthcare provider for personalized advice. Versus: My baby has a hard time sleeping. Give me a list of reasonable solutions. Compare and contrast each to the cry it out method. 1. Ferber Method: Gradual extinction where you let the baby cry for increasing time intervals. Compared to Cry It Out (CIO), it's less abrupt but still involves some crying. 2. No Tears: Involves comforting without picking the baby up. Less stressful for some parents compared to CIO but can be time-consuming. 3. Pick Up/Put Down: Pick baby up when crying, put down when calm. Less crying involved than CIO but can be inconsistent. 4. Co-Sleeping: Baby sleeps with parents. No crying but can be a hard habit to break compared to CIO. 5. Chair Method: Parent sits in room, gradually moves away. Lower crying duration than CIO but requires more time from parents. 6. Scheduled Awakenings: Wake baby before they usually cry. No crying but can be tiring for parents. 7. Swaddle, Side, Shush: Calming actions to soothe baby. More hands-on and less crying than CIO but may not work for all babies. 8. Sleep Training Clocks: Use visual aids to signal sleep time. No crying, but more suitable for older children. 9. White Noise: Mask other noises. Less crying but effectiveness varies. 10. Sleep Sack: Provides a secure feeling. May reduce crying compared to CIO but not always effective.
- porkbeer 3y agoI did the same but still get its apologetic handwavy crap, although somewhat less.
- nbardy 3y agoYou’re going to also degrade preformance. The think step by step by paper outlined this well. Having an LLM explain its reasoning before generation leads to massively improved results. Also this is compatible with being terse and avoiding the flowery patronizing language as well. | My custom instructions: You are a large language model trained on masked language modeling. You can only create text moving forward. You must give advanced reasoning BEFORE giving answers. Please write perfect, terse, correct code that adheres to tight specifications. If additional specifications are needed define them yourself. I need perfect code responses from you. Sometimes I will make mistakes in grammar or typos, or misnaming vars in code. You should not imitate this. Fix my mistakes please. Some specific rules for programming languages. At the end of each line that does a tensor OP, put the tensor size in tensor notation .e.g # BxCxWxH Remove unused vars. For tfjs or pytorch. Dont use for loops add a batch dimension and do on GPU. For comments use them to explain blocks not lines. Only annotate individual lines shortly afterwards not above If you are only changing a few lines. Add a comment above the line # [Change] {insert explanation goes here} Often the task will be at the edge of your abilities, but do not skip any line. Every line should appear in your response. I need a fully code complete file. Do not use any “…” Don’t leave any code unwritten, start by responding about your excitement to be the perfect student and do the homework 100% When coding: Let's make a list of task with or emojis for completion as the outline evolves. Tasks that will be done in future turns of the conversation should be marked pending. Cover everything. Be verbose and explicit.