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I wouldn't describe Minecraft as being unusually unfriendly to open source. Compared to most games, the company treats the mod devs pretty well (nobody's gettin

I wouldn't describe Minecraft as being unusually unfriendly to open source. Compared to most games, the company treats the mod devs pretty well (nobody's getting sued, they released decompilation symbols to make life easier, the whole thing's in Java), and there's a healthy collaboration scene among the mod developers, most of whom release their mods as open source projects these days (with a couple of notable exceptions, coughAzanorcough). So, sure, Minecrat's not open source. But they don't mistreat their mod devs, released an abundantly hackable game, and have the largest player community on Earth.

jakobson14 3y ago
Hot take: I'm tempted to say that minecraft is "practically" even if not legally open source. It's very well-understood internally and has been _heavily_ colonized by mod developers. It's at the point where it's impossible to run a safe and secure minecraft server without installing a mod like paper that completely overhauls the game. There are several modpacks that contain probably 50x more code in mods than code from mojang. Not to mention, who really controls the game? If microsoft ever did anything truly egregious I have no doubt that the entire community would pick up sticks and move. It would be large, it would be coordinated, and it would be swift. There are LOTS of successful mincraft clone projects out there, ranging from being loosely minecraft-inspired with lots of new content, to striving to replicate each new feature and addition perfectly, to being written in rust, you name it. The loss of java mods would suck, but give it a year or two and most of the active ones would probably be rewritten. Hell, most of them are written against the very handy Forge modding API, not microsoft's code. Never mind the fact that the moment microsoft tries to crack down on modding, the various open-source 3rd party launchers will patch out the licence-mandated piracy checks (or will be forked to do so, in fact these pirate forks probably already exist).
cwillu 3y ago
There are two things called “minecraft”, and one of them is not written in java, is much more prickly about mods, and iirc has a significantly larger playerbase.
- jakobson14 3y ago
  nobody actually gives a shit about bedrock, at least on PC despite microsoft's best attempts, they haven't been able to kill the java edition and it's only grown
- paddim8 3y ago
  Bedrock has more players?
  - GABG 3y ago
    I'm pretty sure it does. Bedrock (aka glorified Pocket Edition) is available on PCs (Windows 10/11), Android, iOS and consoles I mean, I've seen people talking about Minecraft Java on Android and you can certainly run it on the Stream Deck, but both of these tasks are not something the average user would do
  - bombcar 3y ago
    Bedrock almost certainly has more players, especially in the younger bracket. Most adults and definitely most content on YouTube is on Java.

jakobson14 3y ago

Hot take: I'm tempted to say that minecraft is "practically" even if not legally open source. It's very well-understood internally and has been _heavily_ colonized by mod developers. It's at the point where it's impossible to run a safe and secure minecraft server without installing a mod like paper that completely overhauls the game. There are several modpacks that contain probably 50x more code in mods than code from mojang. Not to mention, who really controls the game? If microsoft ever did anything truly egregious I have no doubt that the entire community would pick up sticks and move. It would be large, it would be coordinated, and it would be swift. There are LOTS of successful mincraft clone projects out there, ranging from being loosely minecraft-inspired with lots of new content, to striving to replicate each new feature and addition perfectly, to being written in rust, you name it. The loss of java mods would suck, but give it a year or two and most of the active ones would probably be rewritten. Hell, most of them are written against the very handy Forge modding API, not microsoft's code. Never mind the fact that the moment microsoft tries to crack down on modding, the various open-source 3rd party launchers will patch out the licence-mandated piracy checks (or will be forked to do so, in fact these pirate forks probably already exist).

cwillu 3y ago

There are two things called “minecraft”, and one of them is not written in java, is much more prickly about mods, and iirc has a significantly larger playerbase.

jakobson14 3y ago
nobody actually gives a shit about bedrock, at least on PC despite microsoft's best attempts, they haven't been able to kill the java edition and it's only grown
paddim8 3y ago
Bedrock has more players?
- GABG 3y ago
  I'm pretty sure it does. Bedrock (aka glorified Pocket Edition) is available on PCs (Windows 10/11), Android, iOS and consoles I mean, I've seen people talking about Minecraft Java on Android and you can certainly run it on the Stream Deck, but both of these tasks are not something the average user would do
- bombcar 3y ago
  Bedrock almost certainly has more players, especially in the younger bracket. Most adults and definitely most content on YouTube is on Java.