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What’s really embarrassing is how it compares to the Snapdragon. Is the gap expanding at this point?
by MBCook 3y ago
What’s really embarrassing is how it compares to the Snapdragon.
Is the gap expanding at this point?
- robotnikman 3y agoQualcomm is just happy lazily sitting back and collecting licensing fees while putting out mediocre products at this point.
- nomel 3y agoThat's not fair at all. Snapdragon 8 gen 2 was ahead of Apples best offering, just a few days ago [1], in gaming. That's not "mediocre". That's much closer to "head to head". Thermal throttling is also a significant problem with iPhones, for anything real world [2]. A new snapdragon will come out shortly, and the battle will continue. [1] https://beebom.com/snapdragon-8-gen-2-vs-apple-a16-bionic-benchmarks/#:~:text=Snapdragon%208%20Gen%202%20vs%20Apple%20A16%20Bionic%3A%20GFXBench%20Test,-GFXBench%20is%20another&text=Snapdragon%208%20Gen%202%20trumps,could%20only%20muster%20243%20FPS https://beebom.com/snapdragon-8-gen-2-vs-apple-a16-bionic-be.... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzwefx_TXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSzwefx_TXU
- slaw 3y ago> Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 scored 1490 in the single-core > Apple’s A16 Bionic chipset scored 1879. Both on the same 4nm TSMC process.
- jeswin 3y agoThere are different benchmarks one can pick depending on the article they want to write. Geekbench 6 favors Apple CPUs more that Geekbench 5, which was already better on Apple CPUs than say Antutu. Antutu CPU - A16 248335, SnapDragon 8 Gen2 268542 Antutu GPU - A16 394336, SnapDragon 8 Gen 2 580101 If You look at Geekbench 5 scores for A16 and SD8G2, A16 is ahead by less than 10%.
- 011021 3y agoI would suggest you to read this: https://www.antutu.com/en/doc/119646.htm https://www.antutu.com/en/doc/119646.htm
- sudosysgen 3y agoIsn't this true for literally every cross-platform benchmark? Of course the toolchain, kernel, and graphics API will be different.
- slaw 3y agoNo, CPU and memory tests have very little overhead.
- wmf 3y agoThat's why Nuvia/Oryon is coming.
- TradingPlaces 3y agoI don’t think people understand what a big leap this going to be for their CPU cores.
- brokenmachine 3y agoWhy's that? Will they run Windows? Linux?
- wmf 3y agoYes, the 8cx Gen 4 will be used in laptops running Windows and (unofficially) Linux.
- TradingPlaces 3y agoNuvia was a company founded by Gerard Williams in 2020 to build an ARM data center chip with a very high performance/watt profile. He was previously at Apple running the chip unit in some of the crucial years for Apple Silicon. Qualcomm bought Nuvia in 2021, and Williams is VP Engineering now. They are going to present the first Snapdragons with the Nuvia cores in October, probably in the wild at CES. Smartphone, watch, PC, IOT, etc. Data center after that. I expect it will bring Qualcomm much closer to Apple on the CPU part of the SoC. So yes, Windows PCs that can get closer to MacBooks in battery life and CPU performance. Linux at your own risk probably, because they have had a deal with Microsoft on this for a while.
- TradingPlaces 3y agoAnd also, I should mention, ARM is suing over this, and wants Qualcomm to destroy all that IP or negotiate a new licensing agreement.
- r00fus 3y agoLooks like they're having issues delivering from their 2022 vision https://wccftech.com/qualcomm-oryon-problems-potential-snapdragon-8cx-gen-4-delay/ https://wccftech.com/qualcomm-oryon-problems-potential-snapd...