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Web3 being hugely promising doesn’t mean AI will fizzile out. That’s a strawman. Try to reply to what’s been said. AI has far bigger downsides than Web3, Web3 a

by EGreg 3y ago

Web3 being hugely promising doesn’t mean AI will fizzile out. That’s a strawman. Try to reply to what’s been said. AI has far bigger downsides than Web3, Web3 at worst is zero-sum and people voluntarily choose to engage with it. AI can harm many vulnerable people and systems, that never chose to engage with any of it. That’s what you call useful? Also, this idea that just because you say Web3 has no use cases, makes it true, regardless of evidence, is silly.

IshKebab 3y ago
> Try to reply to what’s been said. Try to read what's been said. When did I imply that the two are linked? > AI has far bigger downsides than Web3, Web3 at worst is zero-sum and people voluntarily choose to engage with it. Sure. Web3 is a nothing. At worst it will change nothing. But it is at worst. It changes nothing. > That’s what you call useful? AI can be abused, but that obviously doesn't mean that it isn't useful. I did not call the abuse of AI useful. Who is arguing against straw men now? > Also, this idea that just because you say Web3 has no use cases, makes it true, regardless of evidence, is silly. Please tell me one practical use of Web3. I did actually google it and it returned this list: https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/tip/8-top-Web-30-use-cases-and-examples https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/tip/8-top-Web-30-use-ca... 1. Flexible and secure smart contracts - nobody really wants this; they don't want to lose all their money due to a bug with no recourse. 2. Trusted data privacy - this isn't anything concrete. 3. Highly targeted [advertising] content - erm I thought you said web3 has no downsides? 4. Automated content creation and curation - another hand wave. 5. Unique loyalty programs - ha, come on, really? 6. Increased community building - ... this list is exactly what I expected ... 7. Better omnichannel experiences - ??!? 8. Wider use of augmented reality - what has this even got to do with web3? Please point me to a realistic use case for web3.
- EGreg 3y ago
  See the list here https://intercoin.org/applications https://intercoin.org/applications Would love to see the same type of reaction by numbered point by point as you did above
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Web 5? Lol. As far as I can see all of those things are already totally possible with web 2.0. Except maybe NFTs? Hard to argue that they are useful though except for money laundering. Could you perhaps pick one or two from that list that you think are the best and explain why they can only be implemented with smart contracts? I mean, take voting for example. You can do voting with a web 1.0 website. The challenge is always going to be preventing vote stuffing, and the only real way to prevent that is to associate votes with real world IDs. How would web3 help with that? The proper solution is government issued key pairs, but that doesn't sound very web3 to me.
    - EGreg 3y ago
      You were fine making a list of 8 and here you punked out? Please give your reaction to each one, why they aren’t necessary or aren’t real applications and why Web3 is useless for them. Each one goes into depth for why Web3 matters if you click it. Voting can be done with Web 1.0 and in fact is done with StackExchange sites. But how do you know someone didnt go into the database and change the votes and results? What good are elections if you can’t trust them?

by EGreg 3y ago

IshKebab 3y ago

> Try to reply to what’s been said. Try to read what's been said. When did I imply that the two are linked? > AI has far bigger downsides than Web3, Web3 at worst is zero-sum and people voluntarily choose to engage with it. Sure. Web3 is a nothing. At worst it will change nothing. But it is at worst. It changes nothing. > That’s what you call useful? AI can be abused, but that obviously doesn't mean that it isn't useful. I did not call the abuse of AI useful. Who is arguing against straw men now? > Also, this idea that just because you say Web3 has no use cases, makes it true, regardless of evidence, is silly. Please tell me one practical use of Web3. I did actually google it and it returned this list: https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/tip/8-top-Web-30-use-cases-and-examples https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/tip/8-top-Web-30-use-ca... 1. Flexible and secure smart contracts - nobody really wants this; they don't want to lose all their money due to a bug with no recourse. 2. Trusted data privacy - this isn't anything concrete. 3. Highly targeted [advertising] content - erm I thought you said web3 has no downsides? 4. Automated content creation and curation - another hand wave. 5. Unique loyalty programs - ha, come on, really? 6. Increased community building - ... this list is exactly what I expected ... 7. Better omnichannel experiences - ??!? 8. Wider use of augmented reality - what has this even got to do with web3? Please point me to a realistic use case for web3.

EGreg 3y ago
See the list here https://intercoin.org/applications https://intercoin.org/applications Would love to see the same type of reaction by numbered point by point as you did above
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Web 5? Lol. As far as I can see all of those things are already totally possible with web 2.0. Except maybe NFTs? Hard to argue that they are useful though except for money laundering. Could you perhaps pick one or two from that list that you think are the best and explain why they can only be implemented with smart contracts? I mean, take voting for example. You can do voting with a web 1.0 website. The challenge is always going to be preventing vote stuffing, and the only real way to prevent that is to associate votes with real world IDs. How would web3 help with that? The proper solution is government issued key pairs, but that doesn't sound very web3 to me.
  - EGreg 3y ago
    You were fine making a list of 8 and here you punked out? Please give your reaction to each one, why they aren’t necessary or aren’t real applications and why Web3 is useless for them. Each one goes into depth for why Web3 matters if you click it. Voting can be done with Web 1.0 and in fact is done with StackExchange sites. But how do you know someone didnt go into the database and change the votes and results? What good are elections if you can’t trust them?