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The washing machine in my ear, and an empty boat
- sylware 3y agoExactly what did happen to me. Actually my condition is a bit worse, as I have also low freq parastesia (irregular ~70Hz), I "hear my parastesia" (I have also a weak high freq tinitus in the other ear, and on "crisis" my parastesia is so intense, it can give me muscle cramps, it is usually worse during summer). I was sure it was from "outside", and when I moved out to the other side of the world, it followed me... was actually my body giving me hell. Nowadays, my body decides how I live and nobody else, not even me. But the hard part came after that: it took more than 10 years for my administration to aknowledge it and even with that...
- BaculumMeumEst 3y agoIf I’m being honest I would probably be angrily yelling at that boat.
- zogomoox 3y agoFor me what helped was creating a long white noise sample, then filtering it to have a peak around the frequency of my particular tinnitus and playing it in a loop at barely audible levels from a good stereo in my bedroom. I'm not exactly sure why that works but to me it seems like having an actual irregular audio signal entering your ears prevents your brain/ear from maintaining a self-oscillating tinnitus.
- triyambakam 3y agoWow, super interesting! How did you find the right frequency of your tinnitus and how did you create the track?
- owyn 3y agoMy comment also contains the phrase "super interesting". Now I wonder where that comes from. However, technically to find the frequency in question you could take a white noise generating sound source and connect that to an EQ with an audible dB boost in a narrow range and sweep that through the entire frequency range until you tune it to match the noise in your ear. To create a filtered noise track you could apply a high pass filter and a low pass filter in combination to "bracket" that range and create a narrow band of noise. Enjoy the silence, and check out Aphex Twin (start with: selected ambient works 2). :)
- zogomoox 3y agoFor that I used Reason (digital audio workstation), create a single sine wave synth and played on the keyboard until I found the right frequency. I already knew my tinnitus was a low one for me (sounded like a mains hum) so was looking in the 20 - 200 Hz range. You don't need the exact frequency really, just create a white noise sample in Audacity. The filtering just helps to allow playing the noise at the lowest overall level possible while still being effective in suppressing the tinnitus. I think I could have achieved the same filtering using one of those hi-fi equalizer modules that were all the rage in the 80s and 90s.
- EvanAnderson 3y agoI tried to do something similar, but I discovered that my hearing range ends at a lower frequency than my tinnitus' apparent frequency. It's interesting that my body is synthesizing a signal higher than I can actually hear.
- owyn 3y agoThat's super interesting I'm totally going to try this! I have mild tinnitus. I was in a band. I always wear ear plugs at other people's shows but did not wear ear plugs at band practice or our shows. I guess in hind sight, the situational need to be in the zone and hear everything overrode the common sense notion of "oh yeah of course I should always be wearing ear plugs". Anyway, the tinnitus does sound somewhat like noise with a peak at a certain frequency. I guess I just think of it as "blood noise". Susanne Vega reference? Anyone? Okay, I'll leave the room now. (great song, check it out)
- n40487171 3y agoHappened to me before, I thought it was a generator running at a construction site down the street. It wasn't that long ago but I don't recall exactly when it stopped or if anything correlated.
- msandford 3y agoI used to think that the generators were running at the bank call center 1/4 mile away. I only heard it when it was very quiet, any noise at all and the low droning disappeared. I took more vitamins during the early days of the pandemic and magically the generators stopped running.
- Zebfross 3y agoPSA anytime tinnitus is brought up. I thought I had tinnitus but it turned out to be ear wax resting against my ear drum, and the doctor fixed it in about 5 minutes.
- Tade0 3y agoI was surprised with the range of sounds this produces. I was hearing both white noise and low whistling, the source of which seemed to be moving.
- badhrink 3y agoSo this happened to be my experience too, but with a slight twist. In 2020, I was hearing strange sounds and went to the doctor - turns out it was earwax pressed against my ear drum and a bit of infection. In 2021, I had similar sounding noises and went to the doctor - turns out it wasn't earwax and he couldn't pinpoint on what the reason could be. It is 2023, I am still having that sound :(
- boeingUH60 3y agoThe same happened to me recently. It came suddenly, but a visit to the doctor diagnosed it as ear wax. Took ear drips to soften and remove the wax, and the noise disappeared in no time.
- switch007 3y agoI’ve been bothered by a low frequency noise the last few days and I’ve yet to find the source. It’s not quite constant, can hear through my earplugs. It’s almost like a busy set of hard spinning drives in a noisy old PC as heard from a floor below. I need to talk to my neighbour today to see if he’s got any new appliances/devices etc. And invite a friend over to see if they hear it too… Pretty sure I don’t hear it elsewhere so luckily not tinnitus but it’s been driving me a bit crazy!
- Ekaros 3y agoCould be anything. Yesterday I noticed weird rattling sound... Turned out on desk-alarm clock thing one battery had gone bad. And whole thing started to make noise. I would not have guessed that sort of noise to be caused by that...
- avalys 3y agoGiven that this started in 2022, I’ll just remark that both Covid and the mRNA Covid vaccines have been reported to cause tinnitus.
- fisherjeff 3y agoTo be fair, lots of things have been reported to cause tinnitus. And from what I can tell, nearly all of the handful of cases in clinical trials that have actually been studied were very temporary.
- barathr 3y agoI've always found the MyNoise tinnitus track to be mysterious but it seems to work at least for a short amount of time: https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/neuromodulationTonesGenerator.php https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/neuromodulationTonesGenera...
- archsurface 3y ago"the sound would disappear when I stood up" - doesn't sound like tinnitus. There are things like heavy machinery which produce low frequency vibrations which are audible in some rooms depending on acoustics. I once lived near a rail line which was having work done. In one room I experienced the hum, no others, and it would stop when I stuck my head out the window. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
- steve1977 3y ago> "the sound would disappear when I stood up" - doesn't sound like tinnitus. Laying down or standing up could have an influence on some types of tinnitus I guess, as can movement of the neck on others for example. I wouldn't rule this out a priori.
- jannyfer 3y agohttps://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23422-pulsatile-tinnitus https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23422-pulsati... Sounds like pulsatile tinnitus.
- firefoxd 3y agoMine was the sound of ocean waves. I used to play rain and ocean waves to get my kids to fall asleep. To my surprise, I turned off the sound when they fell asleep but the waves were still crashing on the shore. I assumed the neighbors were playing it for their children as well. The same thing the next day, I thought the neighbors had just left their noise machine on all day. At night it became louder and I went outside to check if I was the only one bothered by the noise. I finally asked my wife, she said she hadn't noticed it. Thought she was going deaf. It was starting to really bother me, it was as if they had dialed the sound to 11. I went outside, and surprisingly I saw a neighbor looking out as well. I went back in, plugged my earphones and played an audiobook. Unfortunately I chose a Lord of the rings rendition with sound effects. I got up in the middle of the night, and noticed that the sound was just as loud in the bathroom as in the bedroom. Kitchen and living room, all the same. Whether I covered my ears or not, it all sounded just the same. I laughed to myself. I still spent several weeks of sleepless nights until it went away on it's own. What a terrible experience it was.
- danjc 3y agoI wonder if The Hum is actually tinnitus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
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- rkachowski 3y agowow, I have a very similar problem but I have always considered it more like a motorcycle slowly revving in the distance than a washing machine. It does occasionally stop and then start again without a clear pattern. Rather than the drastic attempts at vibration dampening the author took, I discovered the problem was in my head by spending time in very distant locations and noticing the issue remains.
- vachina 3y agoNot sure if related but when I yawn very hard I can hear the faint water sounds flowing in my radiator, even when I’m not anywhere near said radiator.
- bowsamic 3y agoThis happened to my wife and I (so immediately knew it was real). Turns out it was container ships at the nearby port. I live in Hamburg and the port is quite huge. One night I decided to bike down to the river and it became immediately obvious. Not an empty boat, though knowing did make it easier
- botanical 3y agoIf you create a suction over your ears with your palms and fingers facing backwards, flicking your fingers onto your skull for a few seconds, it gives some release of the tinnitus. I didn't even know the slight ringing in my ears was tinnitus until I did the above. I don't listen to loud music but I do use earphones solely to listen to any audio.
- _9za9 3y agoI started to do this a few years ago and it works for a short while, often just enough that I need. I also have done it for extended period and the bells from the finger tapping start to turn choppy, less like bells and then the tapping eventually stops creating sound. It is very weird phenomenon to me.
- bibelo 3y agodepravity or deprivation though? (last line of article) depravity: moral corruption; wickedness deprivation: an absence or too little of something important Sleep depravity would be a sleep that is morally corrupt. How does that look like? ;-)
- danielskogly 3y agoHah, thank you! English isn't my first language, definitely meant deprivation. Updated the article :) Maybe one that fed on the sleep of others, that'd be depraved!
- peteforde 3y agoThank you so much for posting this. The narration was charming and funny. I suspect a lot of us find ourselves yelling at the man in the boat. "The Empty Boat" impacted me to such an extent that I had to take a long walk. I'm someone who often finds poetry really difficult to process, especially in realtime. This poem was just so profound that it cut through today's BS and I am somewhat changed for it.
- danielskogly 3y agoThank you for the kind words, it means a lot :)
- asicsp 3y agoI don't think it is an empty boat for me. I think it is the Air Conditioner motor of neighbors (I don't have one). It is especially grating in winter - as I would switch off my fan and sounds are amplified in the cold. Insects chirping (Cicadas?) during rainy seasons are the worst.
- abricot 3y agoFor a while when I was younger I could sometimes hear a steam train when trying to sleep. I had no illusions that it was from outside however, and the rhythm synced to my heartrate. It turned out that I had an undiscovered hole in on of my eardrums that sometimes caused moisture and odd pressure build up in my inner ear. I got it fixed and haven't heard the train since.
- cwkoss 3y agoEmpty boat makes me think of support of digital services. Google saves millions upon millions every month by claiming "it's an automated system, we didn't choose that action, so we aren't responsible". There is no chat support to complain to for most of their products. This model is spreading across the economy: intentionally "leaving boats empty" so people feel like there isn't a person to be mad at. But corporations are not faceless autonomous entities: they are collections of people willfully choosing to craft this facade of emptiness to avoid responsibility, costs, or even awareness of when they do harm. These boats are not empty, but the people in them want you to believe they are.
- pif 3y ago> Google saves millions upon millions ... There is no chat support to complain to for most of their products. If people are not happy with their services, why don't they just ask for their money back?
- cwkoss 3y agoOften times, "all or nothing" is not the best solution to a problem.
- wjnc 3y agoMy company recently reaffirmed to keep telephone a major channel for customer interaction. We deal with people going through a critical period in their lives (the start of permanent disability) and our ability to service them directly affects their welfare. Obviously we could automate it all via automated forms and pick an approach that puts the burden of proof on the customer. We choose to actively help them meet that standard. Back-end needs 100% efficiency, front-end needs 100% clarity, the customer needs support. We could improve profits by squeezing this lemon. It's a handful of IT staff for the forms instead of several dozen people servicing customers. It would even improve profits massively via the absence of claims. We choose not to. Our stakeholders (better) understand. In comparison to what I read on this platform on US-big corp culture, I feel lucky that my stakeholders do understand. We get to make this choice. It even benefits our brand in the long run. Sometimes customers (firms) go for the cheapest insurer, usually backed by foreign money (no flame their, that's EU competition as it is ment). Quite often they return 3 years later. Servicing former employees well is a service that employers recognize.
- semireg 3y agoOne odd thing I haven’t seen mentioned is that in a quiet enough room you can hear the blood flowing through your body. Is this phenomenon considered tinnitus? For me, earplugs allow me to hear this sound better (similar to being under water). I write “better” because it’s calming for my sleep and lets me get to sleep faster. Even stranger, I find it hard to sleep without earplugs for this reason.
- supriyo-biswas 3y agohttps://www.healthline.com/health/pulsatile-tinnitus https://www.healthline.com/health/pulsatile-tinnitus
- jakupovic 3y agoFor me it turned out to be an instant water heater trying to keep pipes hot. Went at the electrical stuff first l. But even after engaging local power company and long distance distribution folks, nothing was done. But, turning off water heater at night stops it. So much relief after years of noise.
- JofArnold 3y agoAs for the boat I'd be worried; potentially some has lost something likely valuable to them, or worse fallen overboard.