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M5, the largest single-masted sailing yacht in the world
- glitchcrab 3y agoI've been sailing pretty much my entire life (started age 10) and so I've seen a lot of impressive craft, but M5 is on a scale I cannot even begin to comprehend.
- polotics 3y agoThe wordage in this article is so full of class markers it's a bit mind blowing. Look at this beaut: """The interior has an on-trend high-contrast scheme forged of old and new pieces, new stone and a nod to art deco in the hardware"""
- aaronbrethorst 3y agoI'd be willing to get behind a wealth tax specifically for people profiled on boatinternational.com
- ssequeira 3y agoWhat are the class markers in that sentence?
- fock 3y ago1) person says they want a fast boat. 2) person puts stones as flooring on said boat. 3) that proves wealth does not scale with intelligence?
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- speed_spread 3y agoTBF, the keel of the boat is itself so heavy that the weight of the floor is insignificant. "Fast" can have different meaning. Top speed is mostly a result of hull and sail profile. Overall mass will affect the acceleration but on long open ocean stretches with constant wind, you'll have plenty of space to reach the designed speed limit.
- saberience 3y agoHmm, this isn't really so accurate, there's a reason racing yachts try to reduce weight in every possible way they can, it does make a difference. You could say that adding a carbon fibre sail also makes no difference to weight versus the keel of a boat like Sayonara or Brindabella etc, but it's still worth saving the weight for the best performance. And also, your point about top speed isn't wholly accurate either, you can get 36 foot boats now which can make 15-20 knots, which used to be thought to be almost impossible. But this is possible now with the advances in boat building techniques and materials. Waterline length obviously makes a difference but if your boat is heavier, the wetted length and drag are going to be much greater. Also, lighter boats can crest over heavy seas in a way heavier boats can't reducing the slowing effect of a heavy sea, so even out at sea without making any maneuvers, you gain performance. Also, if you are tacking then acceleration is kind of a big deal, since you lose speed with every tack and have to regain it. You should look at some of the maxi yachts and see the speed and acceleration they are capable of and understand that weight really does make a difference.
- stickfigure 3y agoI presume they aren't trying to get this 1,000 tonne vessel up on plane.
- speed_spread 3y agoYou are right, there is much more to it than what I proposed. We can all agree that if speed was truly of the essence, a luxury yacht wouldn't be the first choice. Speed requires sacrificing some comfort. Which, looking at interior pics, is definitely out of the question here.
- saberience 3y agoTrue... you're definitely right. I don't think many of the billionaires would be comfortable cresting down waves at 35 knots, they would probably be either throwing up or praying. :)
- m_mueller 3y agoalso I gotta wonder about all those interior pieces flying off when it's tilted in the wind. are these really free standing vases? ...
- aaronbrethorst 3y agoIt's called Krazy Glue for a reason.
- closewith 3y agoThe crew probably stow most of what you see during transits.
- ZiiS 3y agoThe vase must be attached or stowed; but I doubt this heels nearly as much as most yachts. However much money this is still full of engineering tradeoffs. If you loved sailing fast you would buy an AC75 that sails twice as fast and a comftable motor boat to sleep on.
- bondarchuk 3y agoAnd if you love "flying on water" that looks much more like it too https://www.sail-world.com/photos/americascup/yysw240218.jpg https://www.sail-world.com/photos/americascup/yysw240218.jpg Hella cool.
- paganel 3y ago> He flies everything from helicopters to float planes to multi-engine jets to get from his home base in San Antonio to his work in south Texas. “I’m probably flying a helicopter three days a week and a plane five.” Combating "climate change" by taxing the common people to the Moon and back (especially here in Europe) is a joke, has always been a joke. At least this yacht of this guy from the article is using "green" energy for transportation.
- readthenotes1 3y agoLike this? https://www.bbc.com/news/63544995 https://www.bbc.com/news/63544995 The hypocrisy is stunning
- wmf 3y agoYou could tax this guy and redistribute that money to the common people.
- upon_drumhead 3y agoFrom the specs at the bottom. > Fuel capacity: 54,000 litres That's a lot of fuel to be calling it "green"
- eddtests 3y agoNot for a Texan!
- londons_explore 3y ago54,000 liters of wind?
- OJFord 3y agoThat's what it can carry, not what it necessarily uses in a ridiculously short period of time though right? It doesn't have a wind turbine for electricity. Article mentions a 45 days at sea trip, for which they presumably want lights & cooking & entertainment for several people including crew. Less efficiently generated, sure, but it's electricity they'd otherwise be using somewhere else.
- throwaway128128 3y agoI saw her on anchor Pender Harbour last year. I motored a couple around her which took what felt like an eternity. Mind bogglingly large
- alberth 3y agoSailing Yacht A M5 is impressive for single-masted sailboats. But the true marvel is Sailing Yacht A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_(sailing_yacht) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_(sailing_yacht)
- darksaints 3y agoQuite possibly one of the ugliest yachts ever made.
- ahofmann 3y agoI first thought that the title "ugliest yacht in the world" is not so easy to give. Then I looked at the photos. Ugh. The boat looks like a floating tank, like a warship with sails on it. Even the manufacturer Nobiskrug does not manage to shoot appealing photos of this monstrosity. https://www.nobiskrug.com/de/flotte/sailing-yacht-a/ https://www.nobiskrug.com/de/flotte/sailing-yacht-a/
- expertentipp 3y ago> The boat looks like a floating tank, like a warship with sails on it Well it's German made and owned by (Belo)Russian oligarch. It probably has concealed missile launcher.
- IshKebab 3y agoWow you weren't exaggerating. I wonder if getting a big name designer to design your product increases the chance of it being hella ugly, because when anyone tries to say "that's hella ugly" people just say "but Big Name designed it; it must be good!". Kind of like George Lucas and the Star Wars prequels.
- bicx 3y agoApparently the style is polarizing. I think it looks really cool and unique. Edit: Except when looking straight on at the front. It’s definitely ugly from that perspective.
- MaintenanceMode 3y agoThis is everything sailing isn’t. If that makes any sense.
- car 3y agoAgreed. Reminds me of the rich people's catered Burning Man experience, everything done by the help.
- hef19898 3y agoBought as opposed to made, done or planned yourself. The latter is fine, at a certain point sonit becomes somewhat pathetic. Edit: The M5 owner doesn't fall into the bought category so, he was very involved in the refurbishment process and knows his way around his boat. Which does look rather gorgeous.
- 11235813213455 3y agoit's luxury, not sailing
- OJFord 3y agoOwner in this case does seem very into the technical detail of the boat and enjoying sailing, not just partying on water and paying someone to move it about occasionally.
- 11235813213455 3y agosure but the environmental footprint is still huge
- OJFord 3y agoSure, but.. wrong thread? I thought you and the parent were saying this isn't proper sailing, how dare he use the same name for it as my hobby sort of thing?
- Simon_O_Rourke 3y agoWhat's the point of it? Does one mast make it faster/better/safer? Why the attention on this point over, say, some 21-masted ship instead?
- marktolson 3y agoThere isn't a lot of detail in the article regarding the rigging / sailing setup but technically it should be possible to sail this single handed unlike a multi mast / ketch vessel. There should be little difference in term of sailing handling compared to a 40 foot sloop.
- edpichler 3y agoThe beauty and the engineering challenge, I believe. It's similar of what happens when building the tallest skyscraper, for instance.
- bunabhucan 3y agoIs there a measurement scale for obsequiousness?
- globalise83 3y agoThe very well-known Lickspittle scale, which is a base-10 logarithmic scale widely used around the world. This article by Boat International is 5.4 Lickspittles.
- CrzyLngPwd 3y agoGross.