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by saiya-jin 3y ago
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Plus, currently plenty of androids have 5-6 years of guaranteed security updates. To be honest I wouldnt ever want to use much older phones even if patched up to date, too clunky, making bad photos (I have kids so this is top priority), not up to most network standards and so on
- scarface_74 3y agoWhich Android phones have 5-6 years of security updates?
- wredue 3y agoProbably all of them, but that’s only cause, unless things have changed, it takes 3 years to get said updates in the first place. I remember before I switched to iPhone I would wait and wait and wait and wait for the latest android and updates and a whole new version of android would roll out before I would even get the previous version.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoSamsung provides 5
- scarface_74 3y agoSo a Samsung phone from 2018 is still getting operating system updates or security updates?
- bad_user 3y agoTheir pledge has started in 2019, and the promise for 5 years of updates is fairly new. I remember they first promised 3 or 4 years of security updates. For what is worth, I have a Galaxy Tab S6 from 2019 that is still getting security updates, although it wasn't updated to Android 13: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T865/ROM/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-T865/ROM/doc.html
- scarface_74 3y agoHow are those operating system updates? For reference, the latest version of iOS will run on 5 year old iPhones when it is released.
- bad_user 3y agoApple has unparalleled support for older devices, I think we agree. For operating system updates, Samsung pledged 4 years of updates for the flagships starting with S21. The difference between Android versions isn't big. I also mentioned in another comment that on Android, to cope with phone makers not pushing for system updates, Google can update many system components via Google Play. And apps remain compatible. Being 2 versions behind the latest Android is OK.
- thegeekpirate 3y agoThe Google ones do since the... 6a iirc?
- Descon 3y agoPixel 6 onwards have 5 years https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-os-update-length/ https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-os-update-length/
- scarface_74 3y agoOS updated for only 3 years after release and security updates for 5? This is still really bad.
- _ea1k 3y agoIt really isn't, given how much of Android will get updated during those security fixes only years. Many of the builtin apps will still receive feature updates, likely even beyond that window.
- scarface_74 3y agoCompared to iOS 17 running on 5 year old phones and the 10 year old iPhone 5s getting a security update earlier this year?
- nani8ot 3y agoIirc Apple iOS includes more features than Android in the core OS. Google Services still receive updates and only things like the UI and system settings stay the same. Most people I know don't care at all about updates. But I agree, it's great how Apple supports devices for 6 years with major updates. It would also be possible for Android phones if SoC & phones manufacturer actually cared.
- scarface_74 3y agoAnytime a new version of iOS is released, usually within the first 6 months it is on 80%+ of the phones
- _ea1k 3y ago
- bad_user 3y agoSamsung promised 3 or 4 years of updates in 2019, and then updated that pledge to 5 years for the flagships. What's exciting about Samsung's pledge is that it made this promise for some of the mid-range models in the A series, which are fairly affordable. My S21 Ultra is in its 3rd year and regularly updated. Should get 5 years of updates, and I intend to keep it until then. Also, the writing is on the wall that the EU will force phone makers to years of updates, changeable batteries and availability of spare parts. It's also noteworthy that Google has the ability to update many system services via Google Play. The poor track record of updates from phone makers basically demanded it. In other words, an Android device that hasn't received any system updates in a year or two is still fairly usable.
- mongol 3y agoI have an A70..I was just looking for when it will lose its software updates. The last update I have is from Dec 22, but I can't find information when it will expire.
- bad_user 3y agoIndeed, last update is from Dec-22. A70 should have gotten 4 years of security updates. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-a705fn/sek/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/sm-a705fn/sek/doc.html Looking at this list of devices getting updates, it only lists A70s with "biannual" updates, so A70 may no longer be updated: https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb
- mongol 3y agoIndeed, some useful links you found there. Thank you!
- pmontra 3y agoMy Samsung A40 from 2019 should have security updates until 2024. It's still getting them but not as often as in the first 3 years.
- technofiend 3y agoYou asked which Android phones get five years of security updates? Directly from Google, only the Pixel 6 and up, most likely in reaction to Apple's better support policies. Other manufacturers? You have to research it because it varies: https://www.androidauthority.com/phone-update-policies-1658633/ https://www.androidauthority.com/phone-update-policies-16586... Ideally Google would mandate a minimum number of years for both feature and security updates that matches theirs of three and five, respectively. Having said that, these really are wasting assets thanks to storage wearing out, but that's true of all phones, regardless of manufacturer.
- rz2k 3y agoWhile Firefox on iPhones does not allow extensions like uBlock Origin, Orion browser will allow you to install both Firefox and Chrome extensions, including uBlock Origin.