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I doubt we’ll ever see that just because of how badly it would screw over CarPlay users.
by TylerE 3y ago
I doubt we’ll ever see that just because of how badly it would screw over CarPlay users.
- radlad 3y agoWireless CarPlay is becoming pretty common.
- Octoth0rpe 3y agoyes, but I've heard many, many negative things about it (lag, slow charging, phone overheating, etc). I don't think I've ever heard of anyone actually liking it.
- radlad 3y agoHuh. We use it in our car and it works OK. I do know other with the car who have issues with lag however. Slow charging though... that seems orthogonal?
- TylerE 3y agoIt's orthangonal until however you're charging it can't keep up with demand. A 14 Max on a standard USB-A -> Lightning connection is already really marginal. Like, I can drive for an hour with waze running and the phone plugging in (wired carplay) and it'll charge maybe 5%.
- dwighttk 3y agoSounds like waze is the problem… I regularly drive all day with Apple Maps, MagSafe charging, and Bluetooth data. No issues keeping my phone charged
- radlad 3y agoWhat kind of amperage is your car putting out? Older cars really struggle to power phones. In some cars, it's possible to upgrade the USB port - otherwise, you may be better off using the 12V port (cigarette lighter) since you have wireless CarPlay available to you. In my Fusion, I'm stuck using wired Android Auto, so I am unfortunately not able to use the 12V port for charging.
- TylerE 3y agoNo clue, it's a 2017 model so reasonably new. It doesn't even have a cig lighter.
- radlad 3y agoMine is also a 2017 and can barely charge my phone. :(
- anakaine 3y agoYou can get an adapter to change that wired android auto to wireless. I've done this in my ute. Then with my s22 I can use the 12v port with a QC3.0 compatible charger and get above 1% per minute charge whilst still having android auto running. The adapter plugs in to the USB port for android auto and then offers up a wireless connection. Everything is automatic once set up.
- MH15 3y agoMy car only has wireless Carplay, yet it supports wireless and wired Android Auto. It sucks. The only thing worse would not be having Carplay at all.
- kayodelycaon 3y agoI think that's largely due to car manufacturers being shit at software. The previous generation of my current car was absolute trash when it came to CarPlay. Even the wired version of it sucked. The 2023 model had the entertainment system massively upgraded. Wireless CarPlay is seamless and fast. The wireless charging pad isn't amazing but it does the job just fine. I love wireless CarPlay now. :)
- yellow_postit 3y agoWireless CarPlay works great in our VW. What sucks is that when Apple abandoned Qi wireless standard the wireless charging pad in the car doesn’t work well or consistently with the MagSafe design.
- mastercheif 3y agoApple didn’t abandon Qi… all wirelessly chargeable iPhones are Qi compatible.
- yellow_postit 3y agoThey’re technically QI compatible but they don’t work as well with those chargers — much harder alignment issues and therefore less stable and reliable charging in my experience.
- TylerE 3y agoDoesn't do anythign for the millions of people (self included) that already own a car with wired carplay.
- CamperBob2 3y agoI'm sure there will be a dongle for that.
- massysett 3y agoThere already are some: https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/10/carplay-wireless-carplay-adapter/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/10/carplay-wireless-carplay-adap...
- camjohnson26 3y agoThere already are several wireless car play adapters for under $100, I have one and it works perfectly
- fomine3 3y agoExisting cars remain over a decade
- internet101010 3y agoI honestly didn't know non-wireless carplay existed until you said something. Everyone I know just keeps their phone on a charging pad somewhere in the car.
- JohnBooty 3y agoIt fits a use case for some but it doesn't appeal to me. - Plugging the phone in is so easy. - With Wireless Carplay presumbably I'd have to futz with the phone anyway if both of our phones are associated with the entertainment system - I still have to take the phone out of my pocket to put it on the wireless charging pad. That is actually the hassle, not plugging the phone in - If I don't care about charging my phone, I assume my phone is going to heat up in my pocket and drain the battery while I'm doing Wireless Carplay stuff - A lot of my driving is short 10-15 min trips. Can put a pretty decent charge into my phone during that time with the wired connection. Not with inductive charging.
- Klonoar 3y agoI had wireless CarPlay in my last car and every single iOS update would brick the connection somehow. Eventually muscle memory for just plugging in the damn phone took over. I suspect they have a few things to work out with regards to CarPlay wireless connection(s) before they could remove ports on the device, in addition to the other comments on this thread.
- derefr 3y agoMy prediction is that Apple's going to introduce some sort of "MagSafe Data" protocol — some kind of high-bandwidth NFC that runs through an autonomous controller chip that comes up before the rest of the device, such that it can be used to DFU-restore / JTAG / etc. the phone, just as Lightning currently does.
- ghaff 3y agoWhich is a lot of the people who have bought new vehicles in the last 5+ years. And I can't think of any way to work around it that wouldn't (or at least couldn't) be some horrendous kludge which probably wouldn't work very well. I'd never say never obviously but dropping ports entirely would have to be a terrible decision anytime soon. (And one wonders what assurances Apple has made to auto manufacturers adopting CarPlay.)
- glogla 3y ago> terrible decision I think you meant brave decision.
- ghaff 3y agoThere's brave as in people whine because it's pushing the envelope but it can be easily worked around (see headphone jack) and there's brave in the sense of foolhardy which I have to believe all wireless would be in the next decade. (On a phone. Seems reasonable on a watch especially one advertised as suitable for fairly extreme conditions.)
- masklinn 3y ago> And I can't think of any way to work around it that wouldn't (or at least couldn't) be some horrendous kludge which probably wouldn't work very well. One could always dream of head unit updates for wireless carplay support... But according to some wireless carplay adapters do work quite well so that might be an option: https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/10/carplay-wireless-carplay-adapter/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/10/carplay-wireless-carplay-adap... Apple could even release an official one.
- mikestew 3y agoWhere "work quite well" means "latency". It's even a sub-header in TFA linked above. It's the reason we didn't buy a dongle for our new Hyundai Ioniq 5 (which inexplicably still uses USB-A in 2023, and no wireless CarPlay), because every single review for every single dongle at best said, "...and the latency isn't all that bad." Oh, it'll be bad for me if it's bad enough for a reviewer to notice. Grabbing the cable when I get in the car isn't nearly as annoying as waiting for my button press to register.
- glogla 3y agoCould Apple perhaps sell you a $99 wireless wired CarPlay dongle? Maybe $199?
- JoeMerchant 3y agonon-apple wireless adapter is 100 bucks, Apple's would be at least 199.
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