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Its an opensource project. Instead of complaining, why dont you implement it? ;)

by busssard 3y ago

hnarn 3y ago
Completely beside the point. The comment you’re replying to was simply questioning the headline.
- j_maffe 3y ago
  OP implies that the devs were the ones who wrote the headline though. They clearly stated that it is not (yet) a sound alternative to Discord.
  - plastic_bag 3y ago
    The About section of the repo literally says "A private, p2p alternative to Slack and Discord built on Tor & IPFS ". So the dev(s) are indeed claiming it's an alternative to both Slack and Discord.
  - deleted 3y ago
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qabqabaca 3y ago
He’s not complaining about it missing the features he wants, he’s complaining about it missing features of the products it’s presenting itself as an alternative to
derelicta 3y ago
As much as I hate to say that, they are right. If you want to be a significant competitor to centralized plateforms, you gotta at least do as much at them.
- meiraleal 3y ago
  and from where would you start? How should the project be defined if they are yet not an alternative? The "soon to be if people contribute" P2P alternative to slack and discord?
mrd3v0 3y ago
As a major supporter of free software, I can't believe how many times I encounter this reply. No, not everyone has the resources nor skills to dedicate to a random unknown free software project online. Criticism is helpful and can inspire others who do have the time and skills to direct or fork the project into something more useful.
- notpushkin 3y ago
  Criticism can be helpful indeed; it's the form that triggers this kind of response. Let's try this one more time: > Very impressive project! It's neat that you can get this far without relying on any central servers at all. Personally though, I'm missing a couple more features – this only has textual chat and file sharing, while Discord or Slack have a lot more niche features. Achieving feature parity is a prerequisite for getting any user base nowadays, so I hope it is something team would account for before the 1.0 launch :-)
  - _factor 3y ago
    It’s incredible how tone-deaf to their own tone of voice people can be.
    - notpushkin 3y ago
      This happens sometimes, yeah. We're all just mere humans after all.
  - holmesworcester 3y ago
    (Quiet founder here) I agree with the objection that not everybody can just contribute patches for major features to an open source project, and I think it's fair to say that the comparison to Slack and Discord is not 1:1 without voice and video calls (which we do plan to offer someday, FWIW) and to feel disappointed by that. Though I think when an open source alternative emerges it is usually understood that it could take a while to get to feature parity, and we try to be very clear about what Quiet already does and doesn't do yet on our homepage. That said, Quiet is written in TypeScript and built on a web stack almost every engineer is somewhat familiar with, so it's really easy to get hacking on, and we'd love the help. :) Here are the instructions to build Quiet desktop: https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/blob/develop/packages/desktop/README.md https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/blob/develop/packages/desk... And here are some good first issues! https://github.com/orgs/TryQuiet/projects/3/views/1?filterQuery=good+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22 https://github.com/orgs/TryQuiet/projects/3/views/1?filterQu...
LoganDark 3y ago
This is an extremely toxic attitude and helps no one.

Its an opensource project. Instead of complaining, why dont you implement it? ;)

hnarn 3y ago

Completely beside the point. The comment you’re replying to was simply questioning the headline.

j_maffe 3y ago
OP implies that the devs were the ones who wrote the headline though. They clearly stated that it is not (yet) a sound alternative to Discord.
- plastic_bag 3y ago
  The About section of the repo literally says "A private, p2p alternative to Slack and Discord built on Tor & IPFS ". So the dev(s) are indeed claiming it's an alternative to both Slack and Discord.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

qabqabaca 3y ago

He’s not complaining about it missing the features he wants, he’s complaining about it missing features of the products it’s presenting itself as an alternative to

derelicta 3y ago

As much as I hate to say that, they are right. If you want to be a significant competitor to centralized plateforms, you gotta at least do as much at them.

meiraleal 3y ago
and from where would you start? How should the project be defined if they are yet not an alternative? The "soon to be if people contribute" P2P alternative to slack and discord?

mrd3v0 3y ago

As a major supporter of free software, I can't believe how many times I encounter this reply. No, not everyone has the resources nor skills to dedicate to a random unknown free software project online. Criticism is helpful and can inspire others who do have the time and skills to direct or fork the project into something more useful.

notpushkin 3y ago
Criticism can be helpful indeed; it's the form that triggers this kind of response. Let's try this one more time: > Very impressive project! It's neat that you can get this far without relying on any central servers at all. Personally though, I'm missing a couple more features – this only has textual chat and file sharing, while Discord or Slack have a lot more niche features. Achieving feature parity is a prerequisite for getting any user base nowadays, so I hope it is something team would account for before the 1.0 launch :-)
- _factor 3y ago
  It’s incredible how tone-deaf to their own tone of voice people can be.
  - notpushkin 3y ago
    This happens sometimes, yeah. We're all just mere humans after all.
- holmesworcester 3y ago
  (Quiet founder here) I agree with the objection that not everybody can just contribute patches for major features to an open source project, and I think it's fair to say that the comparison to Slack and Discord is not 1:1 without voice and video calls (which we do plan to offer someday, FWIW) and to feel disappointed by that. Though I think when an open source alternative emerges it is usually understood that it could take a while to get to feature parity, and we try to be very clear about what Quiet already does and doesn't do yet on our homepage. That said, Quiet is written in TypeScript and built on a web stack almost every engineer is somewhat familiar with, so it's really easy to get hacking on, and we'd love the help. :) Here are the instructions to build Quiet desktop: https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/blob/develop/packages/desktop/README.md https://github.com/TryQuiet/quiet/blob/develop/packages/desk... And here are some good first issues! https://github.com/orgs/TryQuiet/projects/3/views/1?filterQuery=good+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22 https://github.com/orgs/TryQuiet/projects/3/views/1?filterQu...

LoganDark 3y ago

This is an extremely toxic attitude and helps no one.