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There's a small but loud crowd which insists on using Linux as their daily driver on modern laptops despite this makes very little sense. https://xkcd.com/619/

by _ugfj 3y ago

There's a small but loud crowd which insists on using Linux as their daily driver on modern laptops despite this makes very little sense. https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ is just as true today as it was near fifteen years ago, it's just today it would be streaming from various services (especially in high resolution). I have also struggled with Bluetooth, multifunctional devices and weird enterprise networks. For people who do not enjoy fighting their computers, Windows + WSL is just a smoother experience. Leave the Linux kernel for headless devices: routers, servers etc. It excels there.

donkeybeer 3y ago
Bluetooth, audio, etc works fine in the machines I use, because the manufacturer helps the development of Linux drivers. The real question is why are you buying hardware from companies that dislike you and your os?
rebolek 3y ago
Thank you for your opinion, Microsoft sales person.
- chx 3y ago
  I have been using Linux since 1993 but sure.
matkoniecz 3y ago
> despite this makes very little sense Avoiding Bing reward lottery spam in notifications from OS alone is worth it for me. > https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ This is quite ironic given that I am more likely to use 2048 CPU machine than playing full screen Flash videos.
- chx 3y ago
  you have a 2048 core laptop?
  - matkoniecz 3y ago
    I use Linux not only on laptops, but also on servers. Also, I am more likely to have 2048 core laptop than playing full screen Flash videos. https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ complains about some Linux development focusing on support on server/supercomputer features and ignoring UX issues and support for some then popular media format. The ironic part is that support for absurdly high core devices becomes more relevant, while Flash died.
jraph 3y ago
> Leave the Linux kernel for headless devices Well, Windows + WSL is a non starter for me. I prefer using free software and software avoiding dark patterns. Linux also fortunately happens to be the system I find the most comfortable to use, but that's a nice side effect.
- chx 3y ago
  > I prefer using free software I have been an open source developer for near twenty years now but that doesn't mean I subscribe to such notions. I am just way too old to feed another Tamagotchi for an OS.
  - jraph 3y ago
    My OS takes care of itself quite well.
mrbukkake 3y ago
lmao
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
> https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ is just as true today as it was near fifteen years ago, it's just today it would be streaming from various services (especially in high resolution) Speak for yourself; IME playing video is sufficiently boring that I don't even think about it.
drt5b7j 3y ago
I want an OS that works for me, not for some corporation.
- chx 3y ago
  Tough luck, that doesn't exist. Linux doesn't work and the others, by your definition, work for some corporation. Although this is blind zealotry, O&O shutup takes care of those problems but when did facts stop cults -- because that's what Linux people became. I have been using Linux since 1993 and once I thought similarly and have grown thoroughly disillusioned. It never worked well on the desktop and extremely likely never will. There's a long, long list of forum posts on Arch of me trying to use the damn thing over too many years and then this breaks or that breaks.
  - matkoniecz 3y ago
    > It never worked well on the desktop and extremely likely never will. Well, Windows also never worked well on the desktop*. And current Linux works for me better than current or past Windows*. *for me - your experience may be different

by _ugfj 3y ago

donkeybeer 3y ago

Bluetooth, audio, etc works fine in the machines I use, because the manufacturer helps the development of Linux drivers. The real question is why are you buying hardware from companies that dislike you and your os?

rebolek 3y ago

Thank you for your opinion, Microsoft sales person.

chx 3y ago
I have been using Linux since 1993 but sure.

matkoniecz 3y ago

> despite this makes very little sense Avoiding Bing reward lottery spam in notifications from OS alone is worth it for me. > https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ This is quite ironic given that I am more likely to use 2048 CPU machine than playing full screen Flash videos.

chx 3y ago
you have a 2048 core laptop?
- matkoniecz 3y ago
  I use Linux not only on laptops, but also on servers. Also, I am more likely to have 2048 core laptop than playing full screen Flash videos. https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ complains about some Linux development focusing on support on server/supercomputer features and ignoring UX issues and support for some then popular media format. The ironic part is that support for absurdly high core devices becomes more relevant, while Flash died.

jraph 3y ago

> Leave the Linux kernel for headless devices Well, Windows + WSL is a non starter for me. I prefer using free software and software avoiding dark patterns. Linux also fortunately happens to be the system I find the most comfortable to use, but that's a nice side effect.

chx 3y ago
> I prefer using free software I have been an open source developer for near twenty years now but that doesn't mean I subscribe to such notions. I am just way too old to feed another Tamagotchi for an OS.
- jraph 3y ago
  My OS takes care of itself quite well.

mrbukkake 3y ago

lmao

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

> https://xkcd.com/619/ https://xkcd.com/619/ is just as true today as it was near fifteen years ago, it's just today it would be streaming from various services (especially in high resolution) Speak for yourself; IME playing video is sufficiently boring that I don't even think about it.

drt5b7j 3y ago

I want an OS that works for me, not for some corporation.

chx 3y ago
Tough luck, that doesn't exist. Linux doesn't work and the others, by your definition, work for some corporation. Although this is blind zealotry, O&O shutup takes care of those problems but when did facts stop cults -- because that's what Linux people became. I have been using Linux since 1993 and once I thought similarly and have grown thoroughly disillusioned. It never worked well on the desktop and extremely likely never will. There's a long, long list of forum posts on Arch of me trying to use the damn thing over too many years and then this breaks or that breaks.
- matkoniecz 3y ago
  > It never worked well on the desktop and extremely likely never will. Well, Windows also never worked well on the desktop*. And current Linux works for me better than current or past Windows*. *for me - your experience may be different