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> but trying to get his colleagues to believe it would be an uphill battle You have to go through a lot of education to become a doctor, so people naturally ex

> but trying to get his colleagues to believe it would be an uphill battle You have to go through a lot of education to become a doctor, so people naturally expect doctor's to be wise, but the truth is they are just good a memorizing things. They aren't necessarily smarter than any other person and have just as many blindspots. * Source: My dad and uncle are doctors. My brother in law is a doctor. I have a friend who is a doctor. And I've known a lot of other doctors through them.

talldatethrow 3y ago
I dated a med school student for all of medschool and some rotations. Thus I have countless doctor friends now from those years. Everytime I bring up the reality of what most doctors are like, I get downvoted on HN for some reason. The doctor I dated for years never drank water. She loved diet coke. She ate mcdonalds constantly but avoided the bun. She was skinny though. I had to teach her how to pump gas because her dad did it for her until she was 22. She loved cocaine and moly. Currently cycles Adderall and Ritalin (or something very similar) so she doesnt get too used to one or the other. I could list 20 other 'wtf?' type of things about her. Most others are similarly weird, careless, unhealthy, confused and logicless.
- 221qqwe 3y ago
  > She ate mcdonalds constantly but avoided the bun If she also skipped the fries (and had salad instead) that wouldn't be the worst imaginable diet.
- symlinkk 3y ago
  She must not have been that bad if you dated her for years.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    She was an ok girlfriend. She's not the intellectual caring doctor people imagine when discussing advice from doctors.
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- haldujai 3y ago
  > Everytime I bring up the reality of what most doctors are like Is your insight that doctors are regular educated humans suffering from the same flaws and vices as other regular educated humans? > She loved cocaine and moly. Currently cycles Adderall and Ritalin (or something very similar) so she doesn’t get too used to one or the other. Not sure what this is supposed to imply. I expect the same can also be said for at least 20% of doctors, dentists, SV, Big Law, Wall Street and Main Street in the 20-29 age range.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, no knowledge of anything real world other than your job, are not qualities of "regular educated people". They are modern qualities of the loud morality failed majority these days. Just because it's common for celebrities and kids of rich people to do drugs and screw around, doesn't mean that's what my parents expect from their doctors.
    - haldujai 3y ago
      > Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, no knowledge of anything real world other than your job, are not qualities of "regular educated people". Actually they are, your statement applies to any one of the examples I gave you of what society considers successful/prestigious careers. Silicon Valley is the poster child for stimulant and hallucinogen use/abuse, are they not similarly regular educated people? > Just because it's common for celebrities and kids of rich people to do drugs and screw around Where are you getting the idea that it's only common amongst celebrities and kids of rich people? > They are modern qualities of the loud morality failed majority these days. I don't even know what "loud morality failed majority" means but morality (particularly your personal definition of it) =/= professional competency. The disconnect here seems to be your expectations (and definition of morality but that's a separate point). Your parents, and you, seem to be unaware of how common stimulant, alcohol and drug use is amongst white-collar professionals. Sorry to disappoint but as a group physicians are no different. This has no relevance on professional competency. Fun fact for you the "fathers of modern medicine" who have all the diseases named after them and designed the residency education system were all overt cocaine addicts, thats part of why the hours are so long. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7828946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7828946/
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  This sounds more like you are bitter about an ex than anything else.
steve1977 3y ago
I see doctors a bit like car mechanics. While car engineers would probably more be something like biologists.

talldatethrow 3y ago

I dated a med school student for all of medschool and some rotations. Thus I have countless doctor friends now from those years. Everytime I bring up the reality of what most doctors are like, I get downvoted on HN for some reason. The doctor I dated for years never drank water. She loved diet coke. She ate mcdonalds constantly but avoided the bun. She was skinny though. I had to teach her how to pump gas because her dad did it for her until she was 22. She loved cocaine and moly. Currently cycles Adderall and Ritalin (or something very similar) so she doesnt get too used to one or the other. I could list 20 other 'wtf?' type of things about her. Most others are similarly weird, careless, unhealthy, confused and logicless.

221qqwe 3y ago
> She ate mcdonalds constantly but avoided the bun If she also skipped the fries (and had salad instead) that wouldn't be the worst imaginable diet.
symlinkk 3y ago
She must not have been that bad if you dated her for years.
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  She was an ok girlfriend. She's not the intellectual caring doctor people imagine when discussing advice from doctors.
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haldujai 3y ago
> Everytime I bring up the reality of what most doctors are like Is your insight that doctors are regular educated humans suffering from the same flaws and vices as other regular educated humans? > She loved cocaine and moly. Currently cycles Adderall and Ritalin (or something very similar) so she doesn’t get too used to one or the other. Not sure what this is supposed to imply. I expect the same can also be said for at least 20% of doctors, dentists, SV, Big Law, Wall Street and Main Street in the 20-29 age range.
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, no knowledge of anything real world other than your job, are not qualities of "regular educated people". They are modern qualities of the loud morality failed majority these days. Just because it's common for celebrities and kids of rich people to do drugs and screw around, doesn't mean that's what my parents expect from their doctors.
  - haldujai 3y ago
    > Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, no knowledge of anything real world other than your job, are not qualities of "regular educated people". Actually they are, your statement applies to any one of the examples I gave you of what society considers successful/prestigious careers. Silicon Valley is the poster child for stimulant and hallucinogen use/abuse, are they not similarly regular educated people? > Just because it's common for celebrities and kids of rich people to do drugs and screw around Where are you getting the idea that it's only common amongst celebrities and kids of rich people? > They are modern qualities of the loud morality failed majority these days. I don't even know what "loud morality failed majority" means but morality (particularly your personal definition of it) =/= professional competency. The disconnect here seems to be your expectations (and definition of morality but that's a separate point). Your parents, and you, seem to be unaware of how common stimulant, alcohol and drug use is amongst white-collar professionals. Sorry to disappoint but as a group physicians are no different. This has no relevance on professional competency. Fun fact for you the "fathers of modern medicine" who have all the diseases named after them and designed the residency education system were all overt cocaine addicts, thats part of why the hours are so long. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7828946/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7828946/
CyberDildonics 3y ago
This sounds more like you are bitter about an ex than anything else.

steve1977 3y ago

I see doctors a bit like car mechanics. While car engineers would probably more be something like biologists.