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Sorry, not everything is evaluated on a "case-by-case" basis per say, there is a difference between a "Bright-Line" (clearly specified rule in court) and a "Bal
by Der_Einzige 3y ago
Sorry, not everything is evaluated on a "case-by-case" basis per say, there is a difference between a "Bright-Line" (clearly specified rule in court) and a "Balancing-Test" (what you describe).
I think it's actually pretty damn easy to define "enough" precisely. If the AI + human generated image cannot be easily recreated by AI, than it's enough.
So, for example, random image from civit.ai which is nothing more than a prompt, and negative prompts. This fails the test because I can run the image through CLIP and get (almost) the same exact prompts used to generate it
Now let's say I generate an image using a bunch of custom tools and extensions, such as regional color-loss (i.e. top right of the image must be blue and I will force the model to prefer blue outputs), and leveraging a lora model at 0.3 weight trained on my kids sketch-book drawing style. There's no way for any AI model that hasn't been configured exactly by my human hands to deduce anything approaching the prompt used to generate it (CLIP/Other LLMs doesn't know about extensions and loras).
Courts need a bright-line here, balancing tests lead to miscarriages of justice, which is what looks like is going to happen here a lot.
- capnrefsmmat 3y agoThere are fairly few bright-line tests, because they're hard to write. For instance, consider your proposed test: The copyrightability of works would change retroactively depending on the capabilities of AI. Something that can't be reproduced by AI today could be next year. Is that a desirable outcome?
- dahfizz 3y ago>I think it's actually pretty damn easy to define "enough" precisely. If the AI + human generated image cannot be easily recreated by AI, than it's enough. That's a terrible test, because the capabilities of LLMs are constantly evolving. And the words "easily" and "recreate" just creates more ambiguity.
- nonethewiser 3y agoI struggle to come up with a better definition of “enough” than his. It could be clarified to “the original AI.”
- itishappy 3y ago> I think it's actually pretty damn easy to define "enough" precisely. If the AI + human generated image cannot be easily recreated by AI, than it's enough. Would you be on-board with the inverse of this? You cannot copyright what cannot be generated by a human.