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Indeed, the right to ownership is a right to a right. Besides, I already have that right, that's what ownership means. If a right that I have is violated, then
by rambambram 3y ago
Indeed, the right to ownership is a right to a right. Besides, I already have that right, that's what ownership means.
If a right that I have is violated, then there's only one thing left. "Possession is nine-tenths of the law", they say, so keep your data for yourself, privately offline, if you care about it.
- DrScientist 3y agoI get your point about not letting stuff leak in the first place - but some of that is impossible. If you buy something from a shop with anything other than cash ( some places have started no accepting cash ) - then you leave a trace as part of that transaction. Heck if you walk into a shop and pay with cash, the person at the till still sees you and may remember. Visiting web pages properly anonymously is far from trivial - it's not as simple as refusing cookies. The problem is the selling on of that data, and the joining of the dots across large bodies of data where the sum is often greater than the parts. I would argue it's the act of trying to build a picture of you, as oppose to the incidental accumulation of data. Kinda like the difference between people seeing you walking on the public street ( you are giving away your image and location data ), and you being followed everywhere by a stalker. At some point it crosses the line from the unavoidable, to the unpleasant.
- l33t7332273 3y ago>you being followed everywhere by a stalker Isn’t it legal to quietly follow someone on the street?
- DrScientist 3y agoDepends where you live and the context. For an example see: https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/sh/stalking-harassment/what-is-stalking-harassment/ https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/sh/s...
- l33t7332273 3y agoI was thinking about US law in particular.
- somethingwitty1 3y agoNo it may not be legal. If you continually follow someone, silent or not, it could cause a reasonable person to fear for their safety or to experience emotional distress. There is nuance to this, but just the act of continually following someone can be stalking (even if you never engage with them).
- l33t7332273 3y agoFearing for your safety or being in emotional distress is not illegal.
- 13of40 3y agoI wonder how fast they would come up with a reason to shut you down if you set up an anonymous drop shipping proxy for Amazon. 10% markup but with the guarantee that your PII never goes anywhere unless someone comes by with a warrant.
- DrScientist 3y agoIsn't that the issue? That the individual data point isn't worth the 10% markup - but the accumulated ( across multiple sources ) picture that's the problem. That's why I'm proposing regulating joining up of the dots, rather than collection of each of the dots ( one is inevitable, the other is not ).
- trinsic2 3y agoDon't they still have those privacy payment systems? I remember back in the day using PrivateBuyer. It was an autonomous credit card like payment system.
- DrScientist 3y agoIf you have a package there is still a delivery address. Though with the Amazon collection points - depending on your willingness to travel - you could effectively anonymise that already without the need for a third party.