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…Is SQL a programming language?

by matt3210 3y ago

teleforce 3y ago
Apparently yes, the more controversial one is HTML.
- Cthulhu_ 3y ago
  What about HTMX? HTML syntax with more rich options, but the "language" is still HTML.
MarcusE1W 3y ago
SQL is definitely a domain specific declarative programming language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
Yes, SQL, HTML, CSS (not on this list apparently), XML, JSON, YAML and a couple others are all declarative 'programming' languages. I don't know if there's a formal definition of what is and isn't a programming language tbh, but either way I wouldn't consider them lesser for whichever reason. That said, I think SQL, CSS and maybe HTML are the only ones that are a league of their own, that is, you could get a job as a pure CSS or SQL programmer.
kharak 3y ago
Same question for HTML. In my mind, HTML is a markup language. Maybe I am unaware of more advanced features that fall into the programming language category.
- simonbarker87 3y ago
  For me HTML is a declarative programming language with a very small feature set. Many people disagree with me and I’m ok with that. The argument of “it’s a mark up language” tends to not hold weight for me as when I ask people why they say “because it’s in the name” - which, for me, misses that HTML is considerably more developed now than when it was named and should be measured on the current feature set. It’s not a hill I’d want to die on though so really, it doesn’t matter.
- 4RealFreedom 3y ago
  https://briefs.video/videos/is-html-a-programming-language/ https://briefs.video/videos/is-html-a-programming-language/
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  HTML isn't turing complete, which, along with other limits make it very limited as a programming language, but it does support programming behavior to some extent without resort to another language, so it certainly makes sense in that regard to call it a programming language.
shawabawa3 3y ago
yes it is, surely that's not even controversial? It's even Turing complete (not that a programming language needs to be) It's just not a general purpose programming language like e.g. Python/C/Java/etc
MattPalmer1086 3y ago
Good question! Unlike it seems almost everyone else replying here, I'd say it is a query language and not a programming language. Maybe an artificial distinction, but I don't think of SQL statements as programs.

…Is SQL a programming language?

teleforce 3y ago

Apparently yes, the more controversial one is HTML.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago
What about HTMX? HTML syntax with more rich options, but the "language" is still HTML.

MarcusE1W 3y ago

SQL is definitely a domain specific declarative programming language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

Yes, SQL, HTML, CSS (not on this list apparently), XML, JSON, YAML and a couple others are all declarative 'programming' languages. I don't know if there's a formal definition of what is and isn't a programming language tbh, but either way I wouldn't consider them lesser for whichever reason. That said, I think SQL, CSS and maybe HTML are the only ones that are a league of their own, that is, you could get a job as a pure CSS or SQL programmer.

kharak 3y ago

Same question for HTML. In my mind, HTML is a markup language. Maybe I am unaware of more advanced features that fall into the programming language category.

simonbarker87 3y ago
For me HTML is a declarative programming language with a very small feature set. Many people disagree with me and I’m ok with that. The argument of “it’s a mark up language” tends to not hold weight for me as when I ask people why they say “because it’s in the name” - which, for me, misses that HTML is considerably more developed now than when it was named and should be measured on the current feature set. It’s not a hill I’d want to die on though so really, it doesn’t matter.
4RealFreedom 3y ago
https://briefs.video/videos/is-html-a-programming-language/ https://briefs.video/videos/is-html-a-programming-language/
dragonwriter 3y ago
HTML isn't turing complete, which, along with other limits make it very limited as a programming language, but it does support programming behavior to some extent without resort to another language, so it certainly makes sense in that regard to call it a programming language.

shawabawa3 3y ago

yes it is, surely that's not even controversial? It's even Turing complete (not that a programming language needs to be) It's just not a general purpose programming language like e.g. Python/C/Java/etc

MattPalmer1086 3y ago

Good question! Unlike it seems almost everyone else replying here, I'd say it is a query language and not a programming language. Maybe an artificial distinction, but I don't think of SQL statements as programs.