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I bought a modern premium dishwasher a few years ago. The drying did not work very well, so I called the service. To my suprise only a few hours later a service

by john61 3y ago

I bought a modern premium dishwasher a few years ago. The drying did not work very well, so I called the service. To my suprise only a few hours later a serviceman came plugged his laptop into the machine and prolonged the drying time and everything was perfect. The easiest solution for the manufacturer to get the A++ energy label for this machine was obviously to deliver a machine that does not dry and if someone complains just adjust it rapidily. This is green washing.

aaron695 3y ago
> few hours later a serviceman came plugged his laptop into the machine and prolonged the drying time This is the interesting part of your story. Communicate Directly with Appliances for Real-Time Diagnostics - SmartHQ GE Appliance Service Tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu02_mvDQEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu02_mvDQEI APK, probably... https://apkpure.com/smarthq-service-formerly-newf/com.geappliances.newfi20/ https://apkpure.com/smarthq-service-formerly-newf/com.geappl... Interesting idea re-flashing the firmware on your dishwasher or changing internal settings.
fnordpiglet 3y ago
Is it greenwashing? The vast majority of people won’t complain to the manufacturer, they’ll just recognize it doesn’t dry very well. Although my understanding is drying cycles are longer than the actual run time. They heat up the ceramic and glass then turn off the heater and let the moisture evaporate. Opening the dish washer slightly and letting it sit for a while will usually completely dry the dishes.
AdamN 3y ago
It's not green washing if it actually reduces electricity consumption. Anyway, Miele dishwashers use unheated air blown over the dishes to dry them with minimal cost if you choose the long cycle (i.e. overnight). Bosch doesn't have that feature but also dries ok if you open it up 10 minutes before emptying it. What brand did you have? One final tip though is that tupperware is a drying killer. The cheap plastic absorbs oils over time and creates a film that never really dries - making the whole dryer damp. Get rid of those and move to glass for a much better experience in every way.

by john61 3y ago

aaron695 3y ago

> few hours later a serviceman came plugged his laptop into the machine and prolonged the drying time This is the interesting part of your story. Communicate Directly with Appliances for Real-Time Diagnostics - SmartHQ GE Appliance Service Tool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu02_mvDQEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu02_mvDQEI APK, probably... https://apkpure.com/smarthq-service-formerly-newf/com.geappliances.newfi20/ https://apkpure.com/smarthq-service-formerly-newf/com.geappl... Interesting idea re-flashing the firmware on your dishwasher or changing internal settings.

fnordpiglet 3y ago

Is it greenwashing? The vast majority of people won’t complain to the manufacturer, they’ll just recognize it doesn’t dry very well. Although my understanding is drying cycles are longer than the actual run time. They heat up the ceramic and glass then turn off the heater and let the moisture evaporate. Opening the dish washer slightly and letting it sit for a while will usually completely dry the dishes.

AdamN 3y ago

It's not green washing if it actually reduces electricity consumption. Anyway, Miele dishwashers use unheated air blown over the dishes to dry them with minimal cost if you choose the long cycle (i.e. overnight). Bosch doesn't have that feature but also dries ok if you open it up 10 minutes before emptying it. What brand did you have? One final tip though is that tupperware is a drying killer. The cheap plastic absorbs oils over time and creates a film that never really dries - making the whole dryer damp. Get rid of those and move to glass for a much better experience in every way.