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Phoenix has set another heat record by hitting 110 degrees on 54 days this year
- audessuscest 3y ago[flagged]
- Fauntleroy 3y agoDo you have a better alternative to measurement in mind?
- saberience 3y agoWhat is the point in even making a low effort comment like this? It sounds very much like a low-key way of trying to downplay news like this without offering any substantial debate, facts, or evidence. All the scientific studies show our planet is heating up and it’s overwhelmingly likely that it’s due to mankind’s activity. All the predictions scientists made over the last 20 years have largely come to pass (and in reality some of the predictions have happened even faster than we thought) and it’s likely we are all going to suffer along with our families as we go through more and more extreme weather and heat events over the next 50 years. This is happening, and we have to acknowledge it and get cracking on solving it.
- beanjuiceII 3y ago[flagged]
- hirundo 3y agoI found Phoenix in the summer to be uninhabitable for me even decades ago. The fact that ~2 million people live in that area, mostly without being forced to, gives me hope for the survivability of our species on a warming globe. Just not for my particular genome. My survival strategy was to stay in air conditioned spaces and carefully plan my movements from one such place to another like a astronaut preparing for an EVA.
- Fauntleroy 3y agoThat sounds fine and dandy, but they don't grow food there. That's going to be a much bigger problem than whether or not people can tolerate being indoors all day.
- saberience 3y agoDon’t even start trying to work out how bad the water wars would be if everywhere was like Phoenix. Water rights between states and between nations are going to lead to war and mass migration.
- coffeebeqn 3y agoToo hot to fight!
- irrational 3y agoThat’s why I’m glad I already live in the Pacific Northwest. At some point I imagine there will be a huge influx if only for our plentiful water.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoI'm not sure what you mean by "there" because metropolitan areas typically do not have much agrarian enterprise, but Arizona grows plenty of cotton, beef, and citrus, and always has. https://extension.arizona.edu/arizona-citrus-resources https://extension.arizona.edu/arizona-citrus-resources https://www.arizonabeef.org/the-beef-story/cattle-in-arizona https://www.arizonabeef.org/the-beef-story/cattle-in-arizona https://www.cooperranchlife.com/contact https://www.cooperranchlife.com/contact https://azgrassraisedbeef.com/shipping/ https://azgrassraisedbeef.com/shipping/ Of course, the urban landscape as it is now, used to be dominated by farmland, and so it isn't what it used to, but if you meant to write "they can't grow food there" that also another lie, because there is plenty of food that grows quite well here. In fact, several of my friends love to share the produce from the trees in their yards and their backyard gardens.
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- kopadudl 3y ago43.3 Celsius
- NikolaNovak 3y agoThx. And No thx! Do not want. Unsubscribe! Would not buy again. Seriously, at like 28C in the sun I'm already barely functional. This is fif.teen.degrees more :-<
- WirelessGigabit 3y agoYou have to factor in humidity. Scottsdale airport currently (1:40PM) is 108F (42.222C) w/ 14% humidity, meaning a wet-bulb of 71.11F (21.72778C). London tomorrow at noon is 86F (30C) w/ 52% humidity, meaning a wet-bulb of 72.76F (22.6444C). London will actually feel nastier.
- senectus1 3y agothis wet bulb thing is definitely going to be a significant data point in the future.
- jameshart 3y ago> In July, Phoenix also set a record with a 31-day streak of highs at or above 110 F (43.3 C). The previous record of 18 straight days was set in 1974. Something tells me the new record will stand for a long time.
- ericjmorey 3y agoIf the majority of climatologists are correct, records will be broken at a greater frequency. This would make it unsurprising to see this record broken within 49 years.
- jameshart 3y agoI mean, there’s precedent for changing the number of days in July, I guess…
- giardini 3y agoYou speak of a "majority of climatologists": was there a poll taken and an article published, a study done, or perhaps a citation you might provide? old joke: a psychologist is a person who constructs mental hurdles between you and your goals and then, one by one, as each is jumped or knocked over, points it out to you. Seems that maintaining the suspense of climate change involves a lot of mental "hurdle construction".
- BoiledCabbage 3y ago
- narrator 3y agoI was there and in it for a little while. The strangest thing was it was over 100 degrees for most of the night many nights. It's crazy going outside at night and it's extremely hot. When it's over 110, sitting outside in the shade with a cold drink is even unpleasant. One needs to be in the pool or dripping wet after having just gotten out for it to be tolerable. There are no outdoor sports anyone can do at that temperature safely except swimming. Some people even refer to it as reverse winter because one has to spend so much time indoors and you can't even change your clothing to be comfortable outside.
- lotsoweiners 3y agoYet kids are still outside shooting hoops in the heat and construction workers and landscapers are still doing there jobs no matter the temperatures. My Apple watch says it’s 109 and I’m about to get my sunscreen on and work out in the garden for a couple hours. I guess the heat just bothers some people more then others.
- senectus1 3y agowhats the humidity like?
- chank 3y agoDeteriorating climate and mass shootings are the only two subjects the news covers these days. Both very important issues it seems nobody is doing enough to address. Most people are desensitized to it at this point.
- moralestapia 3y agoA bit tangential, but all of these are arbitrarily chosen constraints: * Within some specific and relatively unimportant geographic area * 1 year intervals ... * ... that start at Jan 01 ... * ... in the Gregorian calendar. * The number 110 ... * ... as a threshold of temperature in Imperial units. I don't disagree with the essence of TFA (i.e. it's getting warmer) but it's also quite absurd how you can come up with any "record" you may need if you are controlling for the variables that suit you. I'm pretty sure I hold several world records, like the fastest cyclist: * on my hometown * who is male * with a graduate degree * that likes hawaiian pizza
- vinyl7 3y agoI feel like a lot of the climate change claims are just confirmation bias
- viknesh 3y agoThey really aren't that arbitrary, except for 110, but even that is reasonable given our decimal system: * Arbitrary but socially meaningful geographic boundary. Basically, a notable US city. * 1 year intervals are actually canonical given that years are based on Earth's rotation * Gregorian calendar / starting at Jan 1 is again socially meaningful, but in particular doesn't split summers in the northern hemisphere * 110 and imperial are sensible given usage of Fahrenheit and decimal systems in the US. Your comment makes it sound like the article is making a claim equally as meaningful as "at latlng 53.193,38.8493, Earth's temperature has been above 482.3 kelvin for 4 of the past 3952 days" which is really not. Yeah, there's definitely some "p hacking" to make spin this into a newsworthy headline, but not nearly to the degree your comment makes it seem. And not to mention the issue of "110f in Phoenix" has been newsworthy previously (eg 3 straight weeks of 110+), it makes even more sense.
- moralestapia 3y ago>socially meaningful geographic boundary For you ... and maybe a minor percentage of the US, which, btw, makes up only 4% of the total world population. >again socially meaningful As I commented elsewhere, nature doesn't care when you start counting days. >110 and imperial are sensible given usage of Fahrenheit and decimal systems in the US. And so? Countries that use Celsius are warmer? Colder? >the issue of "110f in Phoenix" has been newsworthy previously Do you live in Phoenix? This is the first I've ever come across such piece of news. Ever.
- giardini 3y agoI don't think a year with 54 days above 110 degrees "eclipses" a year with 53 days above 110 degrees. In fact, I'd say it was not at all noteworthy. Like ericjmorey says below in another post: "This would make it unsurprising to see this record broken within 49 years." Hardly news! Snooze!
- panarky 3y agoWhat if it immediately followed a streak of 36 days above 110F?
- giardini 3y agoTo paraphrase Bill Clinton: "that would depend on what the definition of "it" was." IOW "a year with 54 days above 110 degrees" that, as you say, " immediately followed a streak of 36 days above 110F" thus totaling a year with (no less than) 90 days above 110 degrees would be noteworthy. Perhaps you have experienced such a stretch of days? Which planet?
- SeanAnderson 3y agoI'm always reminded of this clip when Phoenix's heat is brought up, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYt0SDnrBE
- mikhailfranco 3y agoRiyadh is above 40C from May to October, and above 45C for July & August. Every year. Maximum official shade temperatures are close to 49C for days, up to a week or two. Hotter on the street. It's at some elevation, so it will never win the record high. I used to walk 2k to work, and back, each day, then run 5k on the evening, when it would often be 43C at 7pm.
- WeylandYutani 3y agoMost Americans are old, obese or both. Without air-conditioning the country won't be able to function and AC will only make the problem worse long term.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoSaudi Arabians has an obesity rate (35.4%) that is comparable to the USA (36.2%).
- jmpman 3y agoPhoenix is only pleasant when it’s under 105. Anything above that, and I’m indoors or in the pool. When I move, it’ll be to a place with significantly fewer days under 105.
- mariojv 3y agoWe also blew through the record for number of days over 100 degrees in my part of Texas this year, by double digits. It's 73 days so far this year, beating the previous record of 59 days. One thing I've noticed is how the body can somewhat adapt to this type of heat. There's air conditioning everywhere, of course, so it's not truly adapting to existing 24/7 in this climate for most. But, it's funny how a high of anything under 100 feels really refreshing. I keep the AC at around 76 and end up turning up the temperature or putting a hoodie on if I've spent a good amount of time outdoors that day.