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> Landis saw and did something that he has kept secret for six decades, he says now. He claims he spotted a bullet resting on the top of the back of the seat. H
by koolba 3y ago
> Landis saw and did something that he has kept secret for six decades, he says now. He claims he spotted a bullet resting on the top of the back of the seat. He says he picked it up, put it in his pocket, and brought it into the hospital. Then, upon entering Trauma Room No. 1 (at that stage, he was the only nonmedical person in the room besides Mrs. Kennedy, and both stayed for only a short period), he insists, he placed the bullet on a white cotton blanket on the president’s stretcher.
The revelation is that the bullet was not lodged in JFK and did not fall out while shaking about on the gurney.
- Trombone12 3y agoAnd how does that upend anything? That it fell out already in the car does not seem dramatically different from it falling out after shaking Kennedy a bit.
- jgalt212 3y agoI don't know about that, but I do know that Vanity Fair seems to have an entire department devoted to the The Kennedy's.
- JohnBooty 3y agoAccording to the Warren Commission, the bullet was on Connally's stretcher and presumably fell out of Connally. So if true (not that we can really know at this point) if the pristine bullet was retrieved from Kennedy's car then yes, that would upend everything.
- thinkharderdev 3y agoThey were in the same car
- JohnBooty 3y agoAh, thanks. Sorry. I meant "Kennedy's car seat" and not, "Kennedy's car."
- ttctciyf 3y ago> how does that upend anything? If the story in the article is true, the bullet Landis found - i.e. the famous "magic bullet" - could not have wounded both Kennedy and Governor Connally and have been shot from the Book Depository (to Kennedy's rear) as the so-called single-bullet theory[0] requires, so it upends the Warren Commission's version of the assassination completely. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory
- Eisenstein 3y agoThere is nothing magical about the bullet. The governor was sitting in front and to the right of Kennedy as you can see here: * https://spacecoastdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/JFK-Assassination-580-2.jpg https://spacecoastdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/JFK-A... look at the arms. Kennedy is resting his arm on the car frame and Connally cannot. The seat he is in is not lined up with where Kennedy is. The bullet needs no magic to go in a straight line.
- ttctciyf 3y ago"Magic bullet" is just the most recognisable name for CE399[0], nothing supernatural implied by my use of it. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory
- morby 3y agoI would probably add some major points to this synopsis. The bullet was believed to have been on Connally’s stretcher. It is the “magic bullet”. The pristine bullet that was supposed to have hit JFK and Connally both. The assumption here is that it did not penetrate through JFK. That it came from the wound in his back. This would upend the investigative findings that the bullet in this back was responsible for the neck wound and the injury to the governor. It’s a rather drastic change to the record.
- morby 3y agoTo add to that. The author details how this new detail subsequently alters the version of events. Namely it suggests that the bullet that hit JFK in the back and hit Connally were two different bullets and that they could not have been fired at that rate (the rate suggested by the video evidence) with the weapon used by Oswald
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- TedDoesntTalk 3y agoIn other words, there can only have been more than one shooter. Not just Oswald.
- Eisenstein 3y agoSo the shooter was working with Oswald, or it was a coincidence? I'd like to know who would sign up for anything with Oswald -- probably the most unreliable and untethered person you would have been able to find in the SW USA at the time. All of these conspiracy theories would die if those taking them seriously would just sit down and read the Warren report. If you can then find something specific in the evidence or conclusions that is wrong or illogical or seems like it was covered up in the report, please point it out.
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- becquerel 3y agoCrazy that he chose to keep this secret for six decades. I wonder what possible reason he could have to bring it up now. Hmm, hmm, hmm.
- Apocryphon 3y agoWell, JFK’s nephew is running for president.
- dylan604 3y agoI thought maybe it had to do with all of the people believing JFK is coming back to Dallas
- lapcat 3y ago> Crazy that he chose to keep this secret for six decades. I wonder what possible reason he could have to bring it up now. Hmm, hmm, hmm. Maybe because he's 88 years old and likely to die soon? More or less a deathbed confession. Consider that Watergate's "Deep Throat" Mark Felt only came forward at age 91.
- Simulacra 3y agoMark Felt had more to lose, this guy might just be looking for a payday
- emmelaich 3y agoSpeaking of Mark Felt, this article is fascinating. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/10/watergate-deep-throat-myth-mark-felt-215591/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/09/10/watergate...
- Sunhold 3y agoThe article discusses this in detail.
- stevage 3y agoSame reason Carly Simon revealed who was so vain.
- JohnBooty 3y agoThe revelation is that the bullet was not lodged in JFK and did not fall out while shaking about on the gurney. I'm sorry, this is not correct. This pristine bullet was previously thought to have been found on Connally's stretcher, not JFK's stretcher. It was thought that this bullet traveled into JFK from the rear, exited his throat, and then wounded Connally. If Landis' claim is true, that would upend entirely the Warren commission's findings. Of course, we probably can't really know the truth at this point. But the article makes a solid case for it being quite likely true.
- lucas_membrane 3y ago> If Landis' claim is true, that would upend entirely the Warren commission's findings. Not so. Three shots were fired according to about 85% of the witnesses. Previously, we had a missing bullet. The bullet Landis found might be that missing bullet, previously explained as having vanished someplace in Dealey Plaza. Oswald may have fired it while his view of the limo was partially obscured by the tree. If it made some slight contact with the tree, it might have caused the small bit of flying debris that nicked one of the spectators, then continuing its flight at a lesser speed, hit Kennedy's back, popped out of his back, and been found by Landis. The other magic bullet the Warren Commission may have figured out pretty accurately. Which bullet was the one found at Parkland? Given all the unanticipated mayhem that day, it could have been either one, but one would not expect that both of two wandering bullets would have been found. Many's the detective who has been baffled by red-headed identical twins.
- ndsipa_pomu 3y agoLandis' behaviour strikes me as being very peculiar. Shouldn't he have attempted to preserve evidence on the bullet rather than simply putting it into his pocket?
- hyperhopper 3y agoI am also skeptical of Landis, but what do you mean about preserving evidence? It's a bullet. It just was next to an explosion that cleared it most most evidence. Then the barrel rifling altered the metal. That would not be harmed by picking it up. Then it went through jfk. Okay, we already know his DNA is on it. The real question is why are you picking up random things from a crime scene and then putting them down in a hospital stretcher.
- Someone 3y agoPicking up the bullet destroys the evidence of the exact location it ended up in.
- Tao3300 3y ago> The real question is why are you picking up random things Probably seemed like a good idea at the time. My wife was in car accident once where the airbag deployed. For some reason her immediate reaction was to roll down the window. People in stressful and perilous situations sometimes do things that make no sense.