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Lithium is pretty important in terms of electrifying our economy, which is important for the global environment and climate change - and it's got to come from s
by davidw 3y ago
Lithium is pretty important in terms of electrifying our economy, which is important for the global environment and climate change - and it's got to come from somewhere.
It's also true that mines have a huge track record of getting in, digging stuff up, making money, and then leaving the mess for someone else to clean up.
If you look at the satellite map of the area, you see the former Cordero mercury mine: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9221322,-117.8162339,7151m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9221322,-117.8162339,7151m/d...
There's a whole report on it here: https://response.epa.gov/site/site_profile.aspx?site_id=7029 https://response.epa.gov/site/site_profile.aspx?site_id=7029
> The EPA Site Assessment program conducted a Site Inspection in 1988 which recommended no further action. Upon request from the Fort McDermitt Pauite Shoshone Tribe, EPA Emergency Response conducted an additional site visit in November 2009. At that time, EPA was notified of the possibility that mine waste had been used as fill at locations within the town of McDermitt and on the Fort McDermitt Paiute Shoshone Reservation.
In other words, they tried to get out of doing any cleanup. Then they found that "well, actually..." there was some cleanup needed.
So... it's probably still worth doing because of climate change, but it'd sure be nice to ensure it's done right, and they do right by the people who have always lived there.
I imagine the local tribes are also pretty wary of getting screwed, because that is something that has been very much par for the course throughout US history.
- fallingknife 3y agoIn that case environmentalists should be very much in favor of the mine. Mining in the US is much cleaner than in most other countries so mining it here is not only better for our economy, but for the environment as well. Your example actually is proof of this. It got cleaned up. It wouldn't in most countries.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoAustralia (where most lithium is being mined ATM) isn’t so far behind on the cleanup side. They are a liberal democracy after all. It isn’t clear to me if they are just getting off easy because they are shipping unrefined lithium ore to China, however.
- jeffbee 3y agoThese proposed lithium mines are going to be tiny though, compared to other minerals. For example Thacker Pass is only planning to disturb 6000 acres, which is basically nothing. Every oil well in Texas is on 1 to 5 acres of disturbed land and there are a quarter-million of those in Texas alone. The amount of land that has been scraped flat for oil is incredible. https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0170789,-98.9525815,39702m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0170789,-98.9525815,39702m/d... https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2481804,-102.7177912,13375m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2481804,-102.7177912,13375m/... You only have to glance around to find other mine disturbances. They are sized proportionately to the amount of the material humans want. Copper mines are pretty impressive. Potash and borax mines are rather large. Iron mines are absolutely gigantic.
- whatshisface 3y agoIt's not the hole that ruins the environment. It's what comes out of it.
- edgyquant 3y agoLithium, which is required to diversify into renewable energy.
- whatshisface 3y agoIf only the only thing that came out of a mine was what the company took away with them. :(