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I’d expect them to consider Chrome a loss-leader to get people online since the vast majority of their advertising is online. So giving people the best possible

I’d expect them to consider Chrome a loss-leader to get people online since the vast majority of their advertising is online. So giving people the best possible web experience will increase the amount of ads they’ll see.

atoav 3y ago
No. It is their way of influencing how the web shapes out to be. Your theory doesn't make any sense since every OS/device comes with a free web browser since I can think.
- meheleventyone 3y ago
  My theory is not just giving people a browser but giving them the best possible experience. Chrome has an enormous market share given every OS and device comes with a free web browser. Further the developer experience using Chrome is also superb!
  - malka 3y ago
    Is this an ad ?
    - meheleventyone 3y ago
      Hah, no, Chromes market share is an obvious fact but the developer experience bit is just my opinion and admittedly my use is probably different to the average webdev. I also think this recent change sucks so it’s not all roses.
  - atoav 3y ago
    I am a live long firefox user that also uses chrome. The difference between the two in term of performance is so small and differenciated between various areas, it doesn't even matter. Usability is a very subjective topic, but for me there are things in firefox or it's addons that I cannot have in chrome. And in the end I need to trust my browser for daily (non-developer) use. Trusting google is naive. I don't say Mozilla is deserving of unquestioned trust either, but out of the two it is the better choice.
    - meheleventyone 3y ago
      Firefox runs at about half the performance of Chrome for our use case and other people doing similar stuff report similar results. I wish it wasn’t so clear cut.
      - atoav 3y ago
        All the developers tayloring their applications to chrome has its inpact for sure. But in daily use you will also find cases where Chrome is slow and clunky and Firefox fast and smooth. In the end my (very subjuctive) judgement is that the performance difference in daily use doesn't outweigh the benefits of not using the browser of the monopolist that makes their money with data collection. That doesn't mean I don't use the browser or it's engine in other ways tho.
victorbjorklund 3y ago
Everyone already have built in browsers. If chrome was shutdown tomorrow its not like people would all go offline because they cant access the internet.
- Xelbair 3y ago
  Guess what's the engine that majority of those build in browsers use.
  - hnben 3y ago
    what argument are you trying to make here? something about the current state of the webkit engine, or more like the long-term resilience of the ecosystem?

atoav 3y ago

No. It is their way of influencing how the web shapes out to be. Your theory doesn't make any sense since every OS/device comes with a free web browser since I can think.

meheleventyone 3y ago
My theory is not just giving people a browser but giving them the best possible experience. Chrome has an enormous market share given every OS and device comes with a free web browser. Further the developer experience using Chrome is also superb!
- malka 3y ago
  Is this an ad ?
  - meheleventyone 3y ago
    Hah, no, Chromes market share is an obvious fact but the developer experience bit is just my opinion and admittedly my use is probably different to the average webdev. I also think this recent change sucks so it’s not all roses.
- atoav 3y ago
  I am a live long firefox user that also uses chrome. The difference between the two in term of performance is so small and differenciated between various areas, it doesn't even matter. Usability is a very subjective topic, but for me there are things in firefox or it's addons that I cannot have in chrome. And in the end I need to trust my browser for daily (non-developer) use. Trusting google is naive. I don't say Mozilla is deserving of unquestioned trust either, but out of the two it is the better choice.
  - meheleventyone 3y ago
    Firefox runs at about half the performance of Chrome for our use case and other people doing similar stuff report similar results. I wish it wasn’t so clear cut.
    - atoav 3y ago
      All the developers tayloring their applications to chrome has its inpact for sure. But in daily use you will also find cases where Chrome is slow and clunky and Firefox fast and smooth. In the end my (very subjuctive) judgement is that the performance difference in daily use doesn't outweigh the benefits of not using the browser of the monopolist that makes their money with data collection. That doesn't mean I don't use the browser or it's engine in other ways tho.

victorbjorklund 3y ago

Everyone already have built in browsers. If chrome was shutdown tomorrow its not like people would all go offline because they cant access the internet.

Xelbair 3y ago
Guess what's the engine that majority of those build in browsers use.
- hnben 3y ago
  what argument are you trying to make here? something about the current state of the webkit engine, or more like the long-term resilience of the ecosystem?