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I don't like him. But this is a good move.

by lakomen 3y ago

pipo234 3y ago
> good move. The part where he pulled the plug, or the part where he consulted with Russian officials?
- bogantech 3y ago
  He speaks to plenty of foreign officials, his businesses operate under various regulatory domains
- whatamidoingyo 3y ago
  The part where he "consulted with Russian officials" is not mentioned anywhere in the article.
  - pipo234 3y ago
    > Indeed, Musk has publicly cited concerns that Ukrainian efforts to reclaim the peninsula could prompt a nuclear response from Russia, a fear that, according to Isaacson, was heightened by conversations he had with senior Russian officials. Musk's suggestion that he hadn't expected to be at the center of a military conflict also seems to be missing some self reflection: > "How am I in this war?" Musk asked Isaacson during an interview, according to an excerpt from the book reported on by CNN. "Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes." Yeah right: 1. You're a top-down guy at the helm of starlink. 2. You support one party by sponsoring them with devices that present a major military advantage. 3. You're surprised the devices aren't used to look at cute cat pictures. Off course you'll get some angry calls when you interfere. Once you'll have control over information flows, you'll inevitably need to moderate those flows.
_kbh_ 3y ago
> I don't like him. But this is a good move. But the stated reason has turned out to be not true, once again Russian officials just used the threat of nukes to try and slow down Ukraine. Russia has threatened nukes about every second week since the war started for everything under the sun. None have materialised because they are just that, threats. It's a shame Musk feel for it.
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Expect logical contradictions in statements following that line. It's a medical condition called: "I don't like _____ butt." One of the symptoms is argument in bad faith. There will be an epidemic next year.
- cromd 3y ago
  Yes, and it seems Ukraine actually did attack a base within Crimea later, the specifically forbidden thing, without any nuclear response. I can imagine it's a difficult call for Musk to make, as nobody wants to be responsible for nuclear war, and hindsight is 20/20, but it's yet another bluff in a long string of bluffs as you say.

I don't like him. But this is a good move.

pipo234 3y ago

> good move. The part where he pulled the plug, or the part where he consulted with Russian officials?

bogantech 3y ago
He speaks to plenty of foreign officials, his businesses operate under various regulatory domains
whatamidoingyo 3y ago
The part where he "consulted with Russian officials" is not mentioned anywhere in the article.
- pipo234 3y ago
  > Indeed, Musk has publicly cited concerns that Ukrainian efforts to reclaim the peninsula could prompt a nuclear response from Russia, a fear that, according to Isaacson, was heightened by conversations he had with senior Russian officials. Musk's suggestion that he hadn't expected to be at the center of a military conflict also seems to be missing some self reflection: > "How am I in this war?" Musk asked Isaacson during an interview, according to an excerpt from the book reported on by CNN. "Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes." Yeah right: 1. You're a top-down guy at the helm of starlink. 2. You support one party by sponsoring them with devices that present a major military advantage. 3. You're surprised the devices aren't used to look at cute cat pictures. Off course you'll get some angry calls when you interfere. Once you'll have control over information flows, you'll inevitably need to moderate those flows.

_kbh_ 3y ago

> I don't like him. But this is a good move. But the stated reason has turned out to be not true, once again Russian officials just used the threat of nukes to try and slow down Ukraine. Russia has threatened nukes about every second week since the war started for everything under the sun. None have materialised because they are just that, threats. It's a shame Musk feel for it.

Zigurd 3y ago
Expect logical contradictions in statements following that line. It's a medical condition called: "I don't like _____ butt." One of the symptoms is argument in bad faith. There will be an epidemic next year.
cromd 3y ago
Yes, and it seems Ukraine actually did attack a base within Crimea later, the specifically forbidden thing, without any nuclear response. I can imagine it's a difficult call for Musk to make, as nobody wants to be responsible for nuclear war, and hindsight is 20/20, but it's yet another bluff in a long string of bluffs as you say.