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Well, the same amount of hydrogen (as in 1kg of water) in the form of methane only weighs ~450g though. And methane, conveniently, turns into H2O when burned.

Well, the same amount of hydrogen (as in 1kg of water) in the form of methane only weighs ~450g though. And methane, conveniently, turns into H2O when burned. So in principle you could carry a bottle of methane and burn that to get water. ;-)

dylan604 3y ago
roughly half the weight, plus the weight of the burner equipment. again, that weight still remains even after the supply of fuel to make water is depleted. a just of water gets lighter. by the end of the hike, this is very much a nice quality
- Aachen 3y ago
  Where do you find 550g lighters? Surely a pocket lighter to save half a kilogram of water is worth it
  - dylan604 3y ago
    What do you expect to do, open the valve, flick a Bic, and the water is going to start flowing? Come on. This was a fun nonsensical thread, and you're now trying to turn it into a magic trick rather than goofy science. You have to capture the flame's exhaust, pressurize it, and whatever other sciencey stuff to get the waste into a liquid
    - marcosdumay 3y ago
      > pressurize it You "just" have to capture and cool it down. I mean, it's completely outside of viability, but it's not breaking ground science. You could do it perfectly well in a lab (if you had any reason to).
      - dylan604 3y ago
        There's a lot of things that can be done in a lab, but bringing it to the real world is totally different. Nevermind fitting this in the original concept of backpacking
        namibj 3y ago
        Liquid methane can use normal thermos technology, with the venting fed through a burner to create your water.
        marcosdumay 3y ago
        Ouch. No, go read the thread again. You can turn methane into water in theory. And you can technically do it in a lab (even though the easiest way by far to do it uses a lot of water). You can't do it on your backpack.
    - Aachen 3y ago
      The way I was picturing it, you light the balloon and, besides some burn marks and a boom heard miles away, water appears in its place and falls into a bucket you placed below. Not like I know how this stuff works. Someone says methane turns into water when burned, I imagine based on farts that it floats like in a nice balloon or Hindenburg, I figure this do be how this was intended ¯\_(:))_/¯
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dylan604 3y ago

roughly half the weight, plus the weight of the burner equipment. again, that weight still remains even after the supply of fuel to make water is depleted. a just of water gets lighter. by the end of the hike, this is very much a nice quality

Aachen 3y ago
Where do you find 550g lighters? Surely a pocket lighter to save half a kilogram of water is worth it
- dylan604 3y ago
  What do you expect to do, open the valve, flick a Bic, and the water is going to start flowing? Come on. This was a fun nonsensical thread, and you're now trying to turn it into a magic trick rather than goofy science. You have to capture the flame's exhaust, pressurize it, and whatever other sciencey stuff to get the waste into a liquid
  - marcosdumay 3y ago
    > pressurize it You "just" have to capture and cool it down. I mean, it's completely outside of viability, but it's not breaking ground science. You could do it perfectly well in a lab (if you had any reason to).
    - dylan604 3y ago
      There's a lot of things that can be done in a lab, but bringing it to the real world is totally different. Nevermind fitting this in the original concept of backpacking
      - namibj 3y ago
        Liquid methane can use normal thermos technology, with the venting fed through a burner to create your water.
        marcosdumay 3y ago
        Ouch. No, go read the thread again. You can turn methane into water in theory. And you can technically do it in a lab (even though the easiest way by far to do it uses a lot of water). You can't do it on your backpack.
  - Aachen 3y ago
    The way I was picturing it, you light the balloon and, besides some burn marks and a boom heard miles away, water appears in its place and falls into a bucket you placed below. Not like I know how this stuff works. Someone says methane turns into water when burned, I imagine based on farts that it floats like in a nice balloon or Hindenburg, I figure this do be how this was intended ¯\_(:))_/¯

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