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We should force Microsoft out of business by not purchasing their products.
by jayp1418 3y ago
We should force Microsoft out of business by not purchasing their products.
- kozinc 3y agoHeh, if it were only so easy.
- phito 3y agoWho do you mean by "we" ? Even if all HN users would stop using windows, it would be barely noticeable for Microsoft...
- gumballindie 3y agoNow if hn users start making casual apps work on linux by contributing to wine and proton that may change.
- LoganDark 3y agoLinux won't be a true desktop operating system until it can run MikuMikuDance
- gumballindie 3y agoWith HDR on nonetheless.
- bravetraveler 3y agoJust add gamescope, it supposedly does HDR I have a terrible display, haven't bothered - like four zones or something silly
- LoganDark 3y agoI have some random monitor from China based on a laptop panel and "HDR mode" seems to mean something along the lines of "without the sRGB EOTF". However, the software support for HDR in Windows 11 is so bad that I just use the sRGB mode instead, which does a really good job.
- LoganDark 3y agoMikuMikuDance is ancient but somehow manages to use Direct3D features that WINE doesn't implement properly. Maybe Proton does now, but I haven't checked in a couple years.
- daef 3y agomaybe enough hn users could get their companies stop using windows (but i guess the sysadmins are on slashdot iirc)
- self_awareness 3y agoUnfortunately, HN crowd suffers from the "someone, please, do something" syndrome. (Also: "Here is how the law should look like: we all should get a raise")
- o1y32 3y agoI don't know which world you live in, but I am pretty confident that there aren't that many HN users in my software company, even among developers Even so people (HN or not) won't give up their productivity tool their daily work relies on because of some nuisance or really, ideal. I have seen comments where people are so pissed off by the aggressive ads in Windows that they switched to Linux or Mac, but the number is going to be very small.
- yanellena 3y agoRealistically what are the alternatives to Microsoft 365 with the same level of functionality?
- dimmke 3y agoThe problem is, Microsoft is entrenched with everybody but software engineers and server administrators. Even “IT people” - their primary domain of skill is working with Windows etc… And Microsoft has leveraged this dominance to coerce companies into their cloud services too. Microsoft is a lich, it can’t be killed. It just has to be managed around.
- jabroni_salad 3y agoI'm the IT guy. It's the LOB apps that require windows, not the company. Stop selling us windows-exclusive software and we can talk. Yeah, it's really cool what you can do with wine and proton these days. Can I do that to a bank teller's computer and expect the vendor to answer the phone if something goes wrong? and honestly, windows is pretty durable these days. 'desktop stuff' is less than 5% of my timesheet and I really do have better things to be doing with my time than trying to achieve the current baseline functionality with noncooperative methods.
- permo-w 3y agoI would be surprised if that were true. there are some very influential people on HN
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoInfluential to who? Most avenge joes don't even know about HN, let alone the "celebrities" here. At the end of the day it's just another echo chamber.
- permo-w 3y agoit's influential due to the influential people on HN. your "average Joe" is irrelevant to that
- lotsofpulp 3y agoI doubt anyone in the world is more influential than Microsoft Excel.
- GoToRO 3y agoPlus MS has a lot of corporate deals. They don't care about the average user that much.
- mhitza 3y agoAnd government deals. That's why in 2023 children still learn basic office skills on Microsoft's offering. US might be different because I know Chromebooks are popular over there in education. In Romania this was a big deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption... , in other countries maybe they never got caught. I doubt that bribing, as a "strategy", was only used in one country.
- GartzenDeHaes 3y agoMicrosoft didn't learn it's lesson with Internet Explorer. When the thought leaders abandon your product, the everyday users won't be far behind.
- josephg 3y agoGenuine question: Why would we want Microsoft to go out of business?
- benterix 3y agoBecause this would create an environment where an ethical alternative could appear. Although, looking back at the history of Google, a cynic in me says the users will lose in the end anyway.
- josephg 3y agoDo you think there are no alternatives to Microsoft’s products? In what area do they have no competition?
- yungporko 3y agoto be fair microsoft are head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to openly treating their paying customers like shit.
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- callalex 3y agoOracle and Adobe are highly competitive in this space as well.
- benterix 3y agoSure, there are plenty of alternatives, many are superior, but because of inertia and policies it's difficult to eradicate Microsoft variants. That's why many of us have to put up with broken products like Teams on a daily basis even though everybody (i.e. users, middle management, top management) know they're broken and half-useful when compared to competition.
- patmorgan23 3y ago
- jacobwilliamroy 3y agoOr, the government should step in and say "No. Have different companies take over different parts of Windows. Do this in two years or pay a 1 trillion dollar fine." I think that would be a lot better.
- herbst 3y agoWho even uses their shitty products?