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I love rclone, I'm currently using `rclone mount` to mount a Backblaze B2 bucket to use as backing storage for Jellyfin and it works a treat. There are plenty o

I love rclone, I'm currently using `rclone mount` to mount a Backblaze B2 bucket to use as backing storage for Jellyfin and it works a treat. There are plenty of dials to tune things like cache size and duration to minimize unnecessary downloads from B2, and with my usage patterns it ends up astoundingly cost effective (although at some point I might move to Hetzner storage boxes for even cheaper storage).

jetbalsa 3y ago
Wasabi might been a good choice for you on that front
- FredFS456 3y ago
  Backblaze B2 is $5/TB/month, Hetzner is $4.08/TB/month for 1TB, Wasabi is $6.99/TB/month Wasabi seems like the most expensive here, with the caveat that Hetzner requires ordering discrete steps of storage rather than the 'pay-as-you-go' model of the other two
  - vidarh 3y ago
    Doesn't Hetzner storage boxes also have lower redundancy guarantees? It's been a while since I've looked, so not sure - it's not obvious from their ordering page. They're great either way, though, especially given the "unlimited" egress.
  - ph4te 3y ago
    They are all OK to use, and each provider has pros and cons, depending on the use case. Hetzner is the cheapest; however, your data is stored in Germany or Finland. They have free bandwidth, but you are limited to 10 connections at a time. Backblaze B2 has 4 regions across the globe, storage is $5/mo, there is no minimun retention time, but does have a cost for API Calls(transactions), and in addition charges for egress data(downloads), so your $5/TB is a variable factor, and if you use your data, you may not achieve $5/TB, the cost will grow depending on the use case(there are free levels of transactions and egress) Wasabi is $7/TB and has 13 regions across the globe, with free egress and no api charges. It does have 90-day minimum storage charge, which means you are billed for every object for 90 days regardless of if you delete it before 90 days. In addition, the free egress has limits to prevent system abuse. There is a 30-day deleted storage charge available if you purchase in bulk with their RCS(reserved capacity) storage plan. It's good if you want to store a lot of data that does not need deletion. I have accounts with all 3 of these for different use cases.
    - dpatterbee 3y ago
      Note that in October B2 is removing egress costs and increasing storage prices to $6/TB.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        * removing egress costs up to 3x your amount of stored data I'm pretty disappointed overall by the price increase for storage. Compared to when they launched B2, they now need 1/4 as many servers with 1/2 the upfront cost to store each petabyte.
    - mappu 3y ago
      Regarding Hetzner Storage Box's 10 connection limit, Hetzner also has Storage Share (Nextcloud hosting) at basically the same price point (~3 EUR/TB at the 10TB+ size), only it comes with 200 connections. Rclone supports WebDAV for Nextcloud just as well.
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venatiodecorus 3y ago
this seems really expensive compared to a local nas, at least over the lifetime of your service. is there a reason you chose to go this route instead of local storage for media?
- dpatterbee 3y ago
  A local nas requires much higher upfront costs, I would need space to put it, and it requires much more ongoing maintenance and whatnot. If you factor the cost of my time it probably doesn't really work out as cheaper.

jetbalsa 3y ago

Wasabi might been a good choice for you on that front

FredFS456 3y ago
Backblaze B2 is $5/TB/month, Hetzner is $4.08/TB/month for 1TB, Wasabi is $6.99/TB/month Wasabi seems like the most expensive here, with the caveat that Hetzner requires ordering discrete steps of storage rather than the 'pay-as-you-go' model of the other two
- vidarh 3y ago
  Doesn't Hetzner storage boxes also have lower redundancy guarantees? It's been a while since I've looked, so not sure - it's not obvious from their ordering page. They're great either way, though, especially given the "unlimited" egress.
- ph4te 3y ago
  They are all OK to use, and each provider has pros and cons, depending on the use case. Hetzner is the cheapest; however, your data is stored in Germany or Finland. They have free bandwidth, but you are limited to 10 connections at a time. Backblaze B2 has 4 regions across the globe, storage is $5/mo, there is no minimun retention time, but does have a cost for API Calls(transactions), and in addition charges for egress data(downloads), so your $5/TB is a variable factor, and if you use your data, you may not achieve $5/TB, the cost will grow depending on the use case(there are free levels of transactions and egress) Wasabi is $7/TB and has 13 regions across the globe, with free egress and no api charges. It does have 90-day minimum storage charge, which means you are billed for every object for 90 days regardless of if you delete it before 90 days. In addition, the free egress has limits to prevent system abuse. There is a 30-day deleted storage charge available if you purchase in bulk with their RCS(reserved capacity) storage plan. It's good if you want to store a lot of data that does not need deletion. I have accounts with all 3 of these for different use cases.
  - dpatterbee 3y ago
    Note that in October B2 is removing egress costs and increasing storage prices to $6/TB.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      * removing egress costs up to 3x your amount of stored data I'm pretty disappointed overall by the price increase for storage. Compared to when they launched B2, they now need 1/4 as many servers with 1/2 the upfront cost to store each petabyte.
  - mappu 3y ago
    Regarding Hetzner Storage Box's 10 connection limit, Hetzner also has Storage Share (Nextcloud hosting) at basically the same price point (~3 EUR/TB at the 10TB+ size), only it comes with 200 connections. Rclone supports WebDAV for Nextcloud just as well.
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venatiodecorus 3y ago

this seems really expensive compared to a local nas, at least over the lifetime of your service. is there a reason you chose to go this route instead of local storage for media?

dpatterbee 3y ago
A local nas requires much higher upfront costs, I would need space to put it, and it requires much more ongoing maintenance and whatnot. If you factor the cost of my time it probably doesn't really work out as cheaper.