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If we look at the single benchmark available directly comparing RISC-V to x86, the SG2042 is about comparable to a Sandy Bridge CPU from 2012[0]. That's roughly
by crote 3y ago
If we look at the single benchmark available directly comparing RISC-V to x86, the SG2042 is about comparable to a Sandy Bridge CPU from 2012[0]. That's roughly 11 generations behind. There is definitely going to be a market for RISC-V, but in all likelihood that primarily means eating ARM's lunch and highly specialized workloads.
To directly compete with AMD/Intel they are going to have to be within the same ballpark of performance and cost about the same and consume about the same amount of power. There is simply no way in hell that is going to happen in 2024, not with the amount of catchup they have to do. Even Tenstorrent's own Jim Keller expects their Ascalon to be behind Zen 5 in raw performance / GHz, and Ventana's slides show it barely beating 2021 CPUs[1] which are in turn already massively outperformed by current-gen ones[2].
I fully expect a few RISC-V products to be only a generation or 2/3 behind within a couple of years, but that is simply not enough to be a direct competitor.
[0]: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.00381.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2309.00381.pdf
[1]: https://www.servethehome.com/ventana-veyron-v1-risc-v-data-center-processor-hot-chips-2023/ https://www.servethehome.com/ventana-veyron-v1-risc-v-data-c...
[2]: https://www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-bergamo-epyc-9754-cloud-native-sp5/2/ https://www.servethehome.com/amd-epyc-bergamo-epyc-9754-clou...
- snvzz 3y agoI wouldn't label the Chinese SG2042 as representative of RISC-V as a whole. It is the XuanTie C910 open source core. It has been available for many years. I have no reason to question Jim Keller nor Wei-han Lien ability to deliver, with their proven track record of delivering. Tenstorrent presentation late last year talked chiplet availability in 2024. That's the best estimate we can work with, for Tenstorrent specifically. There's multiple other companies and cores we're aware of, and then the others we don't even know of. e.g. Rivos has a strong team that's been silently cooking something for a very long time now. It could emerge at any time.