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These are not statistical models, they're physical models. Please don't equate your ignorance of a field with knowledge.
by olddustytrail 3y ago
These are not statistical models, they're physical models.
Please don't equate your ignorance of a field with knowledge.
- IG_Semmelweiss 3y agomodel = not science. Model is probabilistic by nature. Science is deterministic by necessity. Both can create knowledge for sure. My only point is this is not science. The article even calls it research, not science. The article doesn't mention the word science, even once.
- Daishiman 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoPlease don't post like this, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. It's completely against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If you know more than others, that's great—please share some of what you know, so the rest of us can learn: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=share%20know%20learn%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor.... But please don't post putdowns.
- amaranth 3y agoI take it you disregard pretty much all of quantum physics then?
- PheonixPharts 3y agoI think it's far more far to say the opposite: science is an ever evolving model of the world, but science is always just a model. F = ma is a model. And you may try to limit your argument to only "statistical models = not science" but then you would be dismissing essentially all social sciences but also ecology, geology, climate science, not to mention every single aspect of statistical mechanics. Science is essentially hypothesis testing where hypothesis represent models of how the world works. Didn't you even take high school physics where you spend considerable time running experiments and writing up why they don't exactly match the formula's prediction in the book? Would you mind explaining what model-free science looks like? Is it just cataloging observations?
- mnky9800n 3y agoDude the ideal gas law is all that matters. After that it's all just malarkey.
- IG_Semmelweiss 3y ago>>> Would you mind explaining what model-free science looks like? Is it just cataloging observations? Anything that can be tested and replicated with all things exactly equal, except that which is the hypothesis being tested. Most if not all of social science, ecology, geology, climate science may not be possible to do this way, since it often involves humans and/or earth, and its physically impossible to duplicate earth, or a human (with identical thoughts,feelings, or experience)
- hgomersall 3y agoA hypothesis? That's just a fancy name for "model".
- mnky9800n 3y ago[flagged]
- hgomersall 3y agoNo, science is probabilistic by nature. Science seeks to generate models to explain reality. The process is to test said models against reality (probabilistically).
- _Algernon_ 3y agoLiterally everything in science is some form of model. From the simplest linear regression to the most sophisticated climate models.
- breakyerself 3y agoLmao I'd love to see a scientists laugh in your face if you said that to them irl